On 5/26/21 2:48 PM, Yuriy wrote:
> John, Do you have a direct link?
Here is an example list that is about selling things related to other lists about HP and Tektronix test gear:
https://groups.io/g/Test-Equipment-For-Sale-Wanted-or-Exchange/message/2451
(It's not about bio equipment though...)
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Re: [DIYbio] “For sale,” “Service," "Barter,” or “Free” section/thread?
Re: [DIYbio] “For sale,” “Service," "Barter,” or “Free” section/thread?
Seems like you are traveling alone on your hauls. Have you tried an engine hoist for your heavy things? So long as you've got level ground, it should fit your needs, in my opinion.
I have purchased all of the equipment from university surplus sales by procurement. liquidation. My project hasn't fully come into fruition, but it has allowed me to proactively amass capital to begin with. Only two cons, the time researching, bidding for auctions, and delivery/pick-up. I still have a biosafety hood covered outdoors as I have to get help moving it, and finding a semi-permanent home for it. It's so heavy. So decisions with the freight shipment process is a learning curve, or securing help at a pick-up. But the pros are worth it, I recent drove 10 hours round trip for an entire truck full of new, old lab supplies. I highly approve of your plan. If nothing else just to ended the life of perfectly fine equipment, and lighten the load of landfills.On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 1:25:16 PM UTC-5 John Griessen wrote:On 5/24/21 12:42 PM, Yuriy wrote:
> As for creating a section, the moderators would have to give the subgroup a label and a warning of no personal responsibility. The
> buyer/recipient would have to do their own due diligence.
>
> Having mentioned all of that I see a potential flaw, especially if money is involved. What if the seller is unverified and doesn't
> ship out that which is paid for?
Electronics engineers like 20-40 year old test equipment from name brands
because it usually still works, and often is repairable
more than the current machines. Plenty of mentions of things for sale are allowed and someone made a separate groups.io group
just for selling, with moderation and the same types of listing details as mentioned above:
Item name,
Point of origin
Condition
Willing to ship or not
Dimensions, weight
photos, videos
But they stop short of time consuming anything being required
not Video call demonstration.
not verifying
Those steps are buyer beware. That said, there is a community cohesion and people who have
given bad treatment to buyers in the past have been run out of the group.
So, there is precedent of such listings working well and being valuable, helpful.
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Re: [DIYbio] “For sale,” “Service," "Barter,” or “Free” section/thread?
John, Do you have a direct link? I tried looking, couldn't find it.
On 5/24/21 12:42 PM, Yuriy wrote:
> As for creating a section, the moderators would have to give the subgroup a label and a warning of no personal responsibility. The
> buyer/recipient would have to do their own due diligence.
>
> Having mentioned all of that I see a potential flaw, especially if money is involved. What if the seller is unverified and doesn't
> ship out that which is paid for?
Electronics engineers like 20-40 year old test equipment from name brands
because it usually still works, and often is repairable
more than the current machines. Plenty of mentions of things for sale are allowed and someone made a separate groups.io group
just for selling, with moderation and the same types of listing details as mentioned above:
Item name,
Point of origin
Condition
Willing to ship or not
Dimensions, weight
photos, videos
But they stop short of time consuming anything being required
not Video call demonstration.
not verifying
Those steps are buyer beware. That said, there is a community cohesion and people who have
given bad treatment to buyers in the past have been run out of the group.
So, there is precedent of such listings working well and being valuable, helpful.
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Re: [DIYbio] “For sale,” “Service," "Barter,” or “Free” section/thread?
I have purchased all of the equipment from university surplus sales by procurement. liquidation. My project hasn't fully come into fruition, but it has allowed me to proactively amass capital to begin with. Only two cons, the time researching, bidding for auctions, and delivery/pick-up. I still have a biosafety hood covered outdoors as I have to get help moving it, and finding a semi-permanent home for it. It's so heavy. So decisions with the freight shipment process is a learning curve, or securing help at a pick-up. But the pros are worth it, I recent drove 10 hours round trip for an entire truck full of new, old lab supplies. I highly approve of your plan. If nothing else just to ended the life of perfectly fine equipment, and lighten the load of landfills.
On 5/24/21 12:42 PM, Yuriy wrote:
> As for creating a section, the moderators would have to give the subgroup a label and a warning of no personal responsibility. The
> buyer/recipient would have to do their own due diligence.
>
> Having mentioned all of that I see a potential flaw, especially if money is involved. What if the seller is unverified and doesn't
> ship out that which is paid for?
Electronics engineers like 20-40 year old test equipment from name brands
because it usually still works, and often is repairable
more than the current machines. Plenty of mentions of things for sale are allowed and someone made a separate groups.io group
just for selling, with moderation and the same types of listing details as mentioned above:
Item name,
Point of origin
Condition
Willing to ship or not
Dimensions, weight
photos, videos
But they stop short of time consuming anything being required
not Video call demonstration.
not verifying
Those steps are buyer beware. That said, there is a community cohesion and people who have
given bad treatment to buyers in the past have been run out of the group.
So, there is precedent of such listings working well and being valuable, helpful.
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Re: [DIYbio] “For sale,” “Service," "Barter,” or “Free” section/thread?
On 5/24/21 12:42 PM, Yuriy wrote:
> As for creating a section, the moderators would have to give the subgroup a label and a warning of no personal responsibility. The
> buyer/recipient would have to do their own due diligence.
>
> Having mentioned all of that I see a potential flaw, especially if money is involved. What if the seller is unverified and doesn't
> ship out that which is paid for?
Electronics engineers like 20-40 year old test equipment from name brands
because it usually still works, and often is repairable
more than the current machines. Plenty of mentions of things for sale are allowed and someone made a separate groups.io group
just for selling, with moderation and the same types of listing details as mentioned above:
Item name,
Point of origin
Condition
Willing to ship or not
Dimensions, weight
photos, videos
But they stop short of time consuming anything being required
not Video call demonstration.
not verifying
Those steps are buyer beware. That said, there is a community cohesion and people who have
given bad treatment to buyers in the past have been run out of the group.
So, there is precedent of such listings working well and being valuable, helpful.
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Re: [DIYbio] “For sale,” “Service," "Barter,” or “Free” section/thread?
- Item name, including model. A simple select and right click should have a lot of info associated with it once it passes through a search.
- Point of origin
- For input electric current requirements
- Condition
- Used/in need of repair/missing parts/as-is/use for parts
- Willing to ship or not
- Dimensions, weight
- Video call demonstration.
- This may be problematic if an item needs a long time to cycle. A time-lapse video should be enough.
- Third party verification, if dealing with a hardware dealer.
- On-site verification by someone within the DIYBio community local to the supplier willing to give up their time.
- Maybe problematic for someone doing the legwork or even shipping, if the seller won't, and giving up time. Compensate?
Hey Yurij,I agree with you. Would like to have that option.If you know how to organize it, would like to help.Sincerely,
Marko KomloshOn Sun, May 23, 2021 at 7:36 PM Yuriy <yuriy...@gmail.com> wrote:What do you think if this group had a for sale or free section/thread of lab equipment? I ran across some charitable fundraising recently looking for one or two lab tools. Before I knew it, I had an inbox with 10 inventories that had to find a new place before owners rent runs out. These organizations are willing to ship, of course. Some tools are too heavy to be shipped. Others are niche items.
Universities are always shedding some lab tools. Barter systems could work between labs not wanting the clutter.
I am not suggesting the entire deal be in the open thread on this forum, just that its available and declared when it isn't once the deal is agreed upon once done.I doubt landlords or real estate agents would find their way here but it could also extend to facilities wanting to invite Bio Labs. I know of at least one community lab looking for a new place around NYC's Long Island City.Thoughts?---- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups DIYbio group. To post to this group, send email to diy...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to diybio+un...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at https://groups.google.com/d/forum/diybio?hl=en
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Re: [DIYbio] “For sale,” “Service," "Barter,” or “Free” section/thread?
Marko Komlosh
What do you think if this group had a for sale or free section/thread of lab equipment? I ran across some charitable fundraising recently looking for one or two lab tools. Before I knew it, I had an inbox with 10 inventories that had to find a new place before owners rent runs out. These organizations are willing to ship, of course. Some tools are too heavy to be shipped. Others are niche items.
Universities are always shedding some lab tools. Barter systems could work between labs not wanting the clutter.
I am not suggesting the entire deal be in the open thread on this forum, just that its available and declared when it isn't once the deal is agreed upon once done.I doubt landlords or real estate agents would find their way here but it could also extend to facilities wanting to invite Bio Labs. I know of at least one community lab looking for a new place around NYC's Long Island City.--Thoughts?
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Re: [DIYbio] “For sale,” “Service," "Barter,” or “Free” section/thread?
On May 23, 2021 1:36:35 PM Yuriy <yuriyology@gmail.com> wrote:
What do you think if this group had a for sale or free section/thread of lab equipment? I ran across some charitable fundraising recently looking for one or two lab tools. Before I knew it, I had an inbox with 10 inventories that had to find a new place before owners rent runs out. These organizations are willing to ship, of course. Some tools are too heavy to be shipped. Others are niche items.
Universities are always shedding some lab tools. Barter systems could work between labs not wanting the clutter.
I am not suggesting the entire deal be in the open thread on this forum, just that its available and declared when it isn't once the deal is agreed upon once done.I doubt landlords or real estate agents would find their way here but it could also extend to facilities wanting to invite Bio Labs. I know of at least one community lab looking for a new place around NYC's Long Island City.--Thoughts?
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[DIYbio] “For sale,” “Service," "Barter,” or “Free” section/thread?
What do you think if this group had a for sale or free section/thread of lab equipment? I ran across some charitable fundraising recently looking for one or two lab tools. Before I knew it, I had an inbox with 10 inventories that had to find a new place before owners rent runs out. These organizations are willing to ship, of course. Some tools are too heavy to be shipped. Others are niche items.
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[DIYbio] Re: Refrigerated Centrifuge Alternatives
https://www.nature.com/articles/srep24648
I'm in need of a refrigerated centrifuge for my agrobacterium electroporation experiments, but they're difficult and expensive to come by - even used on eBay. They're also super heavy and so shipping is also cost prohibitive.
I'm considering buying a small mini-fridge and just running a small microcentrifuge inside of it after cooling it down overnight.
I don't think it'll be as efficient as most refrigerated centrifuges have coils tightly wrapped around the centrifuge chamber, but it'll def. be better than nothing.Has anyone tried this or any other alternatives?Best,Josh
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Re: [DIYbio] Refrigerated Centrifuge Alternatives
I'm interested by your solution, if you have have something working to avoid a refrigerated centrifuge, let us know ;) On my side, I would like to test just the tube on ice before centrifugation...
Thanks Srivatsa - that's a great idea.On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 8:34:44 PM UTC-7 Srivatsa Aithal wrote:Hey Josh,I do not know the volumes that would be used for centrifugation. 1.5 mL tubes could be centrifuged by placing them inside 50 ml tubes (bigger tubes) along with crushed ice as long as the duration is not very long. The 1.5Ml tubes could also be parafilm sealed.Not an ideal solution but could work.Otherwise, I would buy a mini centrifuge and use it in a fridge as you described.Thanks,SriOn Wed, May 19, 2021 at 7:41 PM Josh McGinnis <jo...@everymanbio.com> wrote:I'm in need of a refrigerated centrifuge for my agrobacterium electroporation experiments, but they're difficult and expensive to come by - even used on eBay. They're also super heavy and so shipping is also cost prohibitive.
I'm considering buying a small mini-fridge and just running a small microcentrifuge inside of it after cooling it down overnight.
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Re: [DIYbio] Refrigerated Centrifuge Alternatives
Thanks Srivatsa - that's a great idea.
Hey Josh,I do not know the volumes that would be used for centrifugation. 1.5 mL tubes could be centrifuged by placing them inside 50 ml tubes (bigger tubes) along with crushed ice as long as the duration is not very long. The 1.5Ml tubes could also be parafilm sealed.Not an ideal solution but could work.Otherwise, I would buy a mini centrifuge and use it in a fridge as you described.Thanks,SriOn Wed, May 19, 2021 at 7:41 PM Josh McGinnis <jo...@everymanbio.com> wrote:I'm in need of a refrigerated centrifuge for my agrobacterium electroporation experiments, but they're difficult and expensive to come by - even used on eBay. They're also super heavy and so shipping is also cost prohibitive.
I'm considering buying a small mini-fridge and just running a small microcentrifuge inside of it after cooling it down overnight.
I don't think it'll be as efficient as most refrigerated centrifuges have coils tightly wrapped around the centrifuge chamber, but it'll def. be better than nothing.Has anyone tried this or any other alternatives?Best,Josh---- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups DIYbio group. To post to this group, send email to diy...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to diybio+un...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at https://groups.google.com/d/forum/diybio?hl=en
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Re: [DIYbio] Refrigerated Centrifuge Alternatives
Do you have access to a coldroom?--On Wed, May 19, 2021, 7:41 PM Josh McGinnis <josh@everymanbio.com> wrote:I'm in need of a refrigerated centrifuge for my agrobacterium electroporation experiments, but they're difficult and expensive to come by - even used on eBay. They're also super heavy and so shipping is also cost prohibitive.
I'm considering buying a small mini-fridge and just running a small microcentrifuge inside of it after cooling it down overnight.
I don't think it'll be as efficient as most refrigerated centrifuges have coils tightly wrapped around the centrifuge chamber, but it'll def. be better than nothing.Has anyone tried this or any other alternatives?Best,Josh--
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Re: [DIYbio] Refrigerated Centrifuge Alternatives
I'm in need of a refrigerated centrifuge for my agrobacterium electroporation experiments, but they're difficult and expensive to come by - even used on eBay. They're also super heavy and so shipping is also cost prohibitive.
I'm considering buying a small mini-fridge and just running a small microcentrifuge inside of it after cooling it down overnight.
I don't think it'll be as efficient as most refrigerated centrifuges have coils tightly wrapped around the centrifuge chamber, but it'll def. be better than nothing.Has anyone tried this or any other alternatives?Best,Josh--
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Re: [DIYbio] Refrigerated Centrifuge Alternatives
I'm in need of a refrigerated centrifuge for my agrobacterium electroporation experiments, but they're difficult and expensive to come by - even used on eBay. They're also super heavy and so shipping is also cost prohibitive.
I'm considering buying a small mini-fridge and just running a small microcentrifuge inside of it after cooling it down overnight.
I don't think it'll be as efficient as most refrigerated centrifuges have coils tightly wrapped around the centrifuge chamber, but it'll def. be better than nothing.Has anyone tried this or any other alternatives?Best,Josh--
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[DIYbio] Refrigerated Centrifuge Alternatives
I'm in need of a refrigerated centrifuge for my agrobacterium electroporation experiments, but they're difficult and expensive to come by - even used on eBay. They're also super heavy and so shipping is also cost prohibitive.
I'm considering buying a small mini-fridge and just running a small microcentrifuge inside of it after cooling it down overnight.
I don't think it'll be as efficient as most refrigerated centrifuges have coils tightly wrapped around the centrifuge chamber, but it'll def. be better than nothing.
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[DIYbio] DIY BIO COMMUNITY SURVEY 2021
DIY Bio Community Survey 2021
Go to survey here: https://cambridge.eu.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_aYuYrsytVl3T9pY?Q_Language=EN
Take this short survey and tell us about your experience in DIY bio. You can win one of three gift cards to a merchant of your choice valued $150, $50 and $30!
We'd appreciate it if you could circulate the link via twitter, mailing lists etc. The more DIY biologists take part, the better!
Given the experiences and the changes individuals and the community has gone through in the past decade, I would greatly appreciate it if you would take part in this 2021 DIY Biology Community Survey. Since the last survey of the DIYBio community was done in 2013, the purpose of this study is to help address issues of sensationalism and negative portrayals of DIYbio by updating and building a more holistic and empirically-based understanding of the community.
The results will be online as soon as the survey closes but will also be presented at the Global DIY bio Summit 2021. The more DIY bio people take part, the better!
Everyone who identifies as a member or participant of the DIYBio community can take part. If you have any questions, please do let me know!
[DIYbio] Calling microbiologists
At JOGL we are organising with Doctors without borders an open science call to improve their open source recognition algorithm of antibiotic susceptibility tests (AST). They use it on the field where they are active (low-income countries) to assist local field station technicians with their analysis (not all stations have experienced technicians).
We are inviting microbiologists to help produce images of ASTs with a specific set of antibiotics in order to train their machine learning algorithm. They are reimbursing consumable expenses.
You can find more information here : https://app.jogl.io/program/Antibiogo
There is a Q&A session with MSF and JOGL happening today at 6pm CET, you can register here https://www.eventbrite.com/e/fighting-antimicrobial-resistance-with-msf-jogl-tickets-152984630147
It'd be great to have members of this community participate!
Cheers!
Thomas
Ambassador, iGEM Foundation
Co-Founder & former CEO, La Paillasse
Twitter: @Tholand_ @JustOneGiantLab @_PILIbio
Mobile: +33 678 37 31 36
[DIYbio] Take part in the DIY Bio Community Survey 2021 & Win one of 3 gift cards valued $150, $50 and $30
DIY Bio Community Survey 2021
Go to survey here: https://cambridge.eu.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_aYuYrsytVl3T9pY?Q_Language=EN
Take this short survey and tell us about your experience in DIY bio. You can win one of three gift cards to a merchant of your choice valued $150, $50 and $30!
We'd appreciate it if you could circulate the link via twitter, mailing lists etc. The more DIY biologists take part, the better!
Given the experiences and the changes individuals and the community has gone through in the past decade, I would greatly appreciate it if you would take part in this 2021 DIY Biology Community Survey. Since the last survey of the DIYBio community was done in 2013, the purpose of this study is to help address issues of sensationalism and negative portrayals of DIYbio by updating and building a more holistic and empirically-based understanding of the community.
The results will be online as soon as the survey closes but will also be presented at the Global DIY bio Summit 2021. The more DIY bio people take part, the better!
Everyone who identifies as a member or participant of the DIYBio community can take part. If you have any questions, please do let me know!