Re: [DIYbio] Re: Genome Compiler

I should add that the same goes for Synbiota if the source remains
closed, though GENtle2 looks really good so far (if a little unstable,
though it is beta code!). Still not as useful or versatile as GENtle,
but not far off, either.

On 02/07/12 23:07, Cathal Garvey wrote:
> Just for clarity's sake: Are you planning to release your code under an
> Open-Source license once it is ready?
>
> Omri: You may be surprised just how many successful companies there are
> that share their code entirely. It's fast becoming the new norm, as
> companies realise that:
> A) Most customers don't *want* to roll their own: they just want to
> trust the platform. Those who do roll their own, probably weren't going
> to be customers anyway.
> B) More often than not, the software isn't really the product, it's just
> the platform. Compare this epiphany to early Rail Tycoons who didn't buy
> into Air Travel because they mistakenly believed they were in the
> *Rail*, and not *Travel*, business.
> C) Competition is good for business. Look what happens to companies that
> lack competition; they grow complacent with astonishing rapidity, and
> get destroyed by new innovators. Nokia is a good example in the top-tier
> domain, but it applies to companies at every level of success.
> D) Code bearing a "CopyLeft" license such as the GNU license ensures
> that if someone "steals" your code (if that's your attitude though, you
> don't get it yet! :)), you can "steal" their improvements right back.
> Open source doesn't mean "giving away": it means "sharing", or
> "collaborating".
>
> I'm not saying you guys *have* to go open source. That's your choice.
> However, I think you want *us* to think that Open Source is unusual, or
> impossible for you, or a bad idea. In that case, you may be barking up
> the wrong tree; this community was built on the same principals as Open
> Source, and it's what makes DIYbio so great and so surprisingly
> successful. We don't covet our work, or our ideas, or our time; we share
> it all and we receive in return.
>
> Anyways; you don't have to accept this mindset, but don't be surprised
> if some/many of us opt for the more open platform. I'll still look
> forward to trying your webapp at some stage- it looks like it ticks a
> lot of boxes as far as design goals are concerned, but as long as the
> source remains closed/secret, I don't believe I'll adopt it for my work.
>
> On 02/07/12 17:39, Connor Dickie wrote:
>> Hey Brian,
>>
>> We do make the entire codebase for GENtle available via GitHub. GENtle is a
>> stand-alone web-app that does not require any additional software to be
>> useful. Anyone can download it and run it locally or host on their own web
>> server. Some developers have already done this.
>>
>> At the FBI event I demoed GENtle along with our supplementary web-based
>> project and team management software that is free to use, but is not open
>> source. I should have made that more clear in the demo, and has since been
>> noted in subsequent demos that I have given.
>>
>> Currently we make a hosted version of GENtle available as an open beta that
>> anyone can use, but the supplementary tools are still in closed testing.
>>
>> I hope this clears things up!
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Connor
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 2, 2012 11:52:27 AM UTC-4, Bryan Bishop wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Connor Dickie <ronnoc@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Folks seem to be interested in open source, web-based HTML5 apps these
>>>> days so I figured it would be useful for the community to know that
>>>> Synbiota has released a Beta DNA editor that works on all operating systems
>>>> via the browser - even on a tablet
>>>
>>>
>>> I remember checking your github repository out during the FBI workshop,
>>> and there was only a small portion of your software up as open source. :-/
>>> Maybe Genome Compiler could release even more, like the other open source
>>> projects (say, the biolang series, etc.).
>>>
>>> - Bryan
>>> http://heybryan.org/
>>> 1 512 203 0507
>>>
>>
>

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