I didn't say it's all childs play. ;)
Ok, now is 1914. Most people not living under a rock have hard about that electricity thing, that it can kill you, is expensive to produce, can be used to make light, and even lets you send telegrams. You've probably heard about the radio as well, but sending wireless telegrams? That's just magic. The engineers are busy inventing the amplifiers and modulators that could be used to broadcast human voice over a significant distance, bu that's something way out of an individuals reach for the moment, unless you are ready to invest a lot.
You are a mechanical engineer - gears, nuts, new machining methods, plenty of opportunities to apply your skills. They mentioned that electricity thing in the phisics class in school years ago, and even performed some experiments that involved sparks, but that stuff's just evolving so quickly and is all over the news (journalists writing utter bullshit as usual). So you are curious, are able to find some basic information on how it actually works, and want to try. You are able to buy a small light bulb - still quite expensive, but that's pretty hi-tech, with good vacume and a super-tiny fillament inside. For the electricity source, you use some copper coocware and zink sraps to build a Daniell cell. You struggle to get the damn thing working for about a month, try different designs, learn a bit of chemistry, and one evenig, you connect your light bulb and see the filement light up - wohoo!
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Cathal Garvey <cathalgarvey@cathalgarvey.me> wrote:
The Synbio:Electronics comparison I'll agree with. To describe DIYbio as
the childlike equivalent is, I think, a disservice. Yes, we start out
that way, but so do academically-trained folk; learning 'dumb'
experiments in teaching labs.
I think the big reason we're mostly stuck with primitive experiments is
that we don't have access to the awesome bits we need to do better.
That's instruments, certainly, but we've spent the last few years either
rewriting the protocol book to remove missing equipment and chemicals,
or designing cheap equipment we can all afford.
I think we're now on the cusp of tackling the other missing ingredient;
the DNA. When we've all got access to good fundamental DNA on which we
can build, I think we'll start seeing what all the last few years was
worth in terms of complexity and creativity in DIY-synbio.
At least, I hope we're at that point; sort of gambling on it, in fact.
:) I can't think what other missing ingredient we're really suffering
for, now that we can all access DNA synthesis services, software, and
the hardware and methods to use it all? Roll on DIY-synbio?
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On 25/02/14 03:42, Alexey Zaytsev wrote:
> In computer science terminology, it's awesome.
>
> It's like when I was a kid trying to make sense of a computer, except cells
> are not quite like computers, and don't always work, and almost never work
> in the way you want them to. But when they do, it's certainly awesome.
>
> But being honest, the level of complexity of the stuff we can design to be
> put into cells right now is more on the level of electronics ~ 100 years
> ago - not exactly computer age. It's not programming - more like trying to
> design a new circuit with a couple vacume tubes and a few passive
> components, using math and best guess. And DIYbio? More like connecting a
> light bulb to a battery - still awesome, if you consider that people only
> started seeing electricity as something practical 30 years ago, and now you
> can create light, without a candle, yourself, at home!
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 4:17 AM, William Heath <wgheath@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Alexey,
>>
>> What is it like to make the transition from Computer Science to Systems
>> and Synthetic Biology?!!! Give me some clear insights using computer
>> science terminology if you would be so inclined!
>>
>> -Tim
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Alexey Zaytsev <alexey.zaytsev@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I used to be a software developer, now a masters student in Systems and
>>> Synthetic biology. I would suggest:
>>>
>>> - Khan Academy.
>>> - The 7.00x course at EdX, it's awesome.
>>> - Any other biology-related courses on Coursera/EdX/etc, sign up, but
>>> don't waste your time if you feel the course is either bad of not at your
>>> level.
>>> - Of course, wikipedia, books, and you will figure it out.
>>>
>>> Well, that's if you want to know more about molecular biology, and not
>>> just follow through some simple experiments without understanding what's
>>> going on.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 3:07 AM, Yunfan Jiang <jyf1987@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> your situation is same as me, i am a programmer and also a bio-noob, i
>>>> am currently learning basic bio from an paper version turtorial
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-02-25 6:56 GMT+08:00 Dirk Broenink <dirkbroenink@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> From what I've read so far, DIYbio seems really interesting and full of
>>>>> potential. I want to know more about it. If I could at least understand
>>>>> more of what is being said here that would already be helpful.
>>>>> I'm a computer scientist, but the same goes for people from other
>>>>> professions, where to start learning?
>>>>>
>>>>> Suggested resources (tutorials, books, articles, videos) are welcome.
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