[DIYbio] Re: Open source and bio-hacking for localized agriculture (bio)technological developments

Heath Flax,

Sorry for replying so late, I had been superbusy and I forgot to follow the evolution of the post.....

aniway, thanks for your interesting comments, have you received my previous message? I'm a newbie both on biotech research and googlegroups, I really need to work on my tech skills....

However, I'd obviosuly like to continue the discussion, also because I don't understand the little interest of cpmpanies for something that could be so valuable....but does that fruit have a market??

I cannot find your e-mail, mine is goliste1@hotmail.com, just send me a message......otherwise we can continue here, but as you said you'd prefer a more private space...

Il giorno lunedì 20 maggio 2013 10:29:30 UTC+2, Heath Flax ha scritto:

On Sunday, May 12, 2013 12:20:06 PM UTC-4, goliste1 wrote:

Hi all,

I am a PhD candidate in Politics and I will investigate to what extent might open source arrangements and bio-hacking practices affect biotechnological R&D, enabling the pursuit of goals focused on the local level and on the farmers' needs rather than on the interestes of corporations and state elites.

Is there someone interested in these issues, i.e. development, food security, global justice, commons, etc.?

I have no scientific preparation at all, so I think I'm an exception in this blog, but I really admire your work and I think it could have a huge impact on global agriculture.....

Cheers,

Stefano
goli...@hotmail.com  
  

Stefano: Partly because I'm guessing that we're both forum-newcomers here, and partly because of the importance and relevance I see in your potential project...well, first to say, glad to read of your potential project.

Politics much in projects based on "farmers'" not corporations needs? 
Well, my aproximately fifteen-year project (of trying to come up with specimens of a certain fruit variety, _immune_ to a currently incurable and as well , mostly untreatable disease of that fruit--a project I  that l feel--assuming the final test gets done [hopefully very soon] and proves one or more of my specimens completely immune-) "should"hit seems, find waiting  much interest and it'd seem pretty ready uptake (in parnership) by some chosen business or research entity in the fruit growing "sphere."
But for a year now, it's been  seeming to prove to be a project that the professional entities cited,may prefer to decline to cooperate with.  So far, even "in the slightest."

In other words, it's looking as to this particular significant disease of this particular fruit, pretty likely that the first known fully immune specimen are at hand.  Yet, the carefully professional outfits contacted so far--ones very prominent currently in research of such matters with this exact fruit in particular--have,so far, failed to respond whatsoever, to my broaching of my research results and interest in discussing potential partnering or other development.  Zero replies to careful, thorough letters.
All I can figure, is that the difficulties shall I say, ensuing from  the , yes "corporate and state elites" , must be the gist of what's probably going on.

As permitted by time to discuss, which it seems I should around now, have quite a bit of, I'd be glad to discuss more, and probably at least some right here on this forum, if you want.  Some discussion, unsure just how much, I might need to go a little more private than a forum, to continue.

I can try to watch this forum; or, my email is listed and available I think, thanks.

--heathflax

On Sunday, May 12, 2013 12:20:06 PM UTC-4, goliste1 wrote:

Hi all,

I am a PhD candidate in Politics and I will investigate to what extent might open source arrangements and bio-hacking practices affect biotechnological R&D, enabling the pursuit of goals focused on the local level and on the farmers' needs rather than on the interestes of corporations and state elites.

Is there someone interested in these issues, i.e. development, food security, global justice, commons, etc.?

I have no scientific preparation at all, so I think I'm an exception in this blog, but I really admire your work and I think it could have a huge impact on global agriculture.....

Cheers,

Stefano
goli...@hotmail.com  
  

Stefano: Partly because I'm guessing that we're both forum-newcomers here, and partly because of the importance and relevance I see in your potential project...well, first to say, glad to read of your potential project.

Politics much in projects based on "farmers'" not corporations needs? 
Well, my aproximately fifteen-year project (of trying to come up with specimens of a certain fruit variety, _immune_ to a currently incurable and as well , mostly untreatable disease of that fruit--a project I  that l feel--assuming the final test gets done [hopefully very soon] and proves one or more of my specimens completely immune-) "should"hit seems, find waiting  much interest and it'd seem pretty ready uptake (in parnership) by some chosen business or research entity in the fruit growing "sphere."
But for a year now, it's been  seeming to prove to be a project that the professional entities cited,may prefer to decline to cooperate with.  So far, even "in the slightest."

In other words, it's looking as to this particular significant disease of this particular fruit, pretty likely that the first known fully immune specimen are at hand.  Yet, the carefully professional outfits contacted so far--ones very prominent currently in research of such matters with this exact fruit in particular--have,so far, failed to respond whatsoever, to my broaching of my research results and interest in discussing potential partnering or other development.  Zero replies to careful, thorough letters.
All I can figure, is that the difficulties shall I say, ensuing from  the , yes "corporate and state elites" , must be the gist of what's probably going on.

As permitted by time to discuss, which it seems I should around now, have quite a bit of, I'd be glad to discuss more, and probably at least some right here on this forum, if you want.  Some discussion, unsure just how much, I might need to go a little more private than a forum, to continue.

I can try to watch this forum; or, my email is listed and available I think, thanks.

--heathflax

On Sunday, May 12, 2013 12:20:06 PM UTC-4, goliste1 wrote:

Hi all,

I am a PhD candidate in Politics and I will investigate to what extent might open source arrangements and bio-hacking practices affect biotechnological R&D, enabling the pursuit of goals focused on the local level and on the farmers' needs rather than on the interestes of corporations and state elites.

Is there someone interested in these issues, i.e. development, food security, global justice, commons, etc.?

I have no scientific preparation at all, so I think I'm an exception in this blog, but I really admire your work and I think it could have a huge impact on global agriculture.....

Cheers,

Stefano
goli...@hotmail.com  
  

Stefano: Partly because I'm guessing that we're both forum-newcomers here, and partly because of the importance and relevance I see in your potential project...well, first to say, glad to read of your potential project.

Politics much in projects based on "farmers'" not corporations needs? 
Well, my aproximately fifteen-year project (of trying to come up with specimens of a certain fruit variety, _immune_ to a currently incurable and as well , mostly untreatable disease of that fruit--a project I  that l feel--assuming the final test gets done [hopefully very soon] and proves one or more of my specimens completely immune-) "should"hit seems, find waiting  much interest and it'd seem pretty ready uptake (in parnership) by some chosen business or research entity in the fruit growing "sphere."
But for a year now, it's been  seeming to prove to be a project that the professional entities cited,may prefer to decline to cooperate with.  So far, even "in the slightest."

In other words, it's looking as to this particular significant disease of this particular fruit, pretty likely that the first known fully immune specimen are at hand.  Yet, the carefully professional outfits contacted so far--ones very prominent currently in research of such matters with this exact fruit in particular--have,so far, failed to respond whatsoever, to my broaching of my research results and interest in discussing potential partnering or other development.  Zero replies to careful, thorough letters.
All I can figure, is that the difficulties shall I say, ensuing from  the , yes "corporate and state elites" , must be the gist of what's probably going on.

As permitted by time to discuss, which it seems I should around now, have quite a bit of, I'd be glad to discuss more, and probably at least some right here on this forum, if you want.  Some discussion, unsure just how much, I might need to go a little more private than a forum, to continue.

I can try to watch this forum; or, my email is listed and available I think, thanks.

--heathflax