Re: [DIYbio] Legislation and/or standards affecting DIYbio or Biohacking in your country

Shouting into the void is nice and all, but I'm personally a fan of
good, well-curated canonical resources. You might as well say wikipedia
is useless and we should all just blog random factoids and leave it up
to massive, corporate-owned search-engines to "Organise the world's
information".

On Tue, 2016-03-22 at 22:00 +0000, Dennis Oleksyuk wrote:
> Google search is way better than any wiki platform or other thing that
> requires coordination. Just post what you have to say as a blog post
> on some well known platform like https://wordpress.com/ and everyone
> everywhere will be able to find it very easily.
>
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 8:24 AM Andrew Gray <andrew.gray.d2@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hey thanks for the interesting info. I haven't come across
> anything painfully visible regarding an open resource
> containing regulations for different countries but i'd be
> happy to copy and paste what i come across. What country are
> you operating out of? What regulations are you subject to?
>
>
> On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 11:08:33 PM UTC+11, Cathal
> (Phone) wrote:
> I would *love* to see a crowdsourced knowledgebase of
> regulation. When I was hoping to design IndieBB (a
> plasmid) for global shipping, one of the tough
> questions for me was how the law would apply to me and
> my customers in different countries. For example,
> apparently in France a plasmid with certain kinds of
> selective cassette is considered a GMO in itself,
> whereas in Ireland things are far more sane and only
> living cells can be considered GMO.
>
> There's also an unfortunate amount of "regulator
> head-canon" that isn't widely understood. For example,
> EU regulators appear to agree that "self cloning"
> applies to microorganisms, and "cis-genics" applies to
> macroorganisms, but not the other way around. This is
> contrary to the generally accepted language used by
> everyone but regulators, and has bizzarre side effects
> because (IIRC) both terms are used in the "contained
> use" regulations but one is absent from the
> "deliberate release" schedule... leading to paradoxes
> where engineered bacteria can be considered exempt
> from containment but not permitted for "deliberate
> release". Wut?
>
> Where should we put this data? I think another thread
> on the DIYbio wiki settlef on Github wikis...not ideal
> but at least portable someday to another system. Has
> anyone started said wiki?
>
>
> On 18 March 2016 11:56:10 GMT+00:00, Andrew Gray
> <andrew....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey gang,
> Hello from Australia! I've started a series of
> blog posts which is acting as an intro for
> DIYbio for Australians outside of what the
> mainstream media is interested in. I've done
> my first post
> http://bioquisitive.org.au/diybio-in-australia/
>
>
>
> The next post will be a big one as i dive into
> how Aus compares to the rest of the world from
> a legislation, standards, and safety context.
> Especially how community labs here are
> affected by this in comparison to the rest of
> the world. So i've come to you, the rest of
> the worlds biohackers and diybio'ers to hear
> more from you on how legislation affects what
> you do in your given location. You don't have
> to write out the entire legislation obviously
> but if you would be able to point me in the
> direction of the agencies, regulators,
> legislation or otherwise that either enforce
> or write the policy that directly affects what
> you do in the world of DIYbio i would really
> appreciate it! Also if there are any
> interesting notes you've made, maybe
> shortfalls or areas that are ridiculously
> restrictive in your eyes please do share!
>
>
> For example
>
>
> Down here in Australia, we have federal
> regulators (Office of The Gene Regulator, who
> have cool badges) who enforce legislation
> around what sort of gmo experiments can be
> conducted where. Certain things we don't have
> to report on due to certain host/vector combos
> being in an extremely low category of risk.
> However if they find out your violating any
> law due to negligence it could be lock up for
> you or heavy fines. Having said that, in the
> pursuit of transparency we have been in
> contact with them from day 1 largely due to
> BioFoundry's Meow Ludo who has been extremely
> persistent in creating strong channels of
> communication with them. They're actually
> really excited about us getting this movement
> off the ground as long as we maintain our
> effort of being as open and transparent as
> possible.
>
>
> In addition we also have to consider national
> standards which act as "guidelines" for
> construction and operation of various lab
> facilities such as AS/NZS 2243.3
>
>
> We're also subject to state level legislation
> which is pretty much just a repeat of what the
> OGTR has said in their legislation.
>
>
> So any information like that would be very
> appreciated, also if you could tell me a bit
> about your WetLab or Group and country of
> origin i would be very appreciative and be
> sure to give you a shout out in the next blog.
>
>
> Thanks guys,
>
>
> Andrew
>
> --
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please
> excuse my brevity.
>
>

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