I probably interpreted what was meant with "hijack" different from some, and also share the feelings Pieter expressed... but it is not something new to me too.
"Hijack" not necessarily indicates that someone is appropriating someting by DOING it, but also by just USING it as an affirmative symbol of values (in general) contrary to the ones defended by people who actually are doing the thing.
I experienced this intention to "hijack the movement" two years ago while fundraising for a biotech competition. We received an support offer from one of the leaders of a newly founded far-right party here in Brazil, so they could use us to say: "While you [the government] are spending money inneficiently with those free univeristies [the public universities are completely free here], bureaucrats and stupid research funding, those kids with this innovative project have to beg for money!". Of course we didn't accepted anything from them.
Pieter's concerns and this discussion are rooted, IMHO, on what is "being political". It seems to me that every motivation, "pragmatical" or "moralist", that orients the practice of something IS POLITICAL (even when you belive in something as "apolitical", or in a "impartial" social practice of science - this is actually also a political stance).
My point is, as Cathal wrote, we should feel confortable discussing the "politics of making". But before we have these "being political" issues. Whats the matter on "being political" if you can't escape from that?
Interesting discussion!
2017-02-01 11:01 GMT-02:00 Dennis Oleksyuk <dennis@oleksyuk.me>:
+1 for providing more evidence to this alarmists claim. It is quite concerning if it is true.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/--On Wed, Feb 1, 2017, 7:12 AM ukitel <marco.r.cosenza@gmail.com> wrote:Hi Pieter,I also would like to encourage you to come up with examples or situations that led to think you that the DIY philosophy is beign hijacked.I think this conversation would benefit from that.In general, even if the movement is known as DIY, it is probably better described as "Do It Together".In addition to the comments above, I don't think that there is a moral obligation in helping the other DIYers. However, if you see DIY as a movement, and you feel part of a community, then you will and must contribute by sharing your knowledge, otherwise you are not part of the movement/community.Even though this hijacking threat is new to me, I would welcome a discussion to work together on definitions and directions. If, as a community, we would speak with a single voice, we might gain more control over our narrative.
On Tuesday, 31 January 2017 18:59:57 UTC+1, Pieter Waag wrote:--I agree with you Lisa that we probably all much rather take the pragmatic approach and just keep doing what were already doing (creating open knowledhe and tools), but I am worried that the-path-in-the-making all of a sudden gets surrounded by the wrong crowd and supporters that don't see or deliberately ignore where it's heading.Most DIYers start their projects just for fun, not interested in the political aspects. But what fun is it really once you find out that others steal your thunder and interpret the innocent label of f.e. "local produced" as a political statement instead of a eco-friendly indicator? Don't you agree?
Another teethless code of conduct is not what we need. Instead I am looking for more tangible actions.
I am now thinking of describing clearly how the DIY movement benefits from sharing and collaborations. Practical case studies, not in terms of ideological principles. Examples of how appropriation of biotechnologies that enabled a much bigger group of people from benefitting, like how the ODIN shop provides access to CRISPR kits that would otherwise be difficult to get. A few more examples would make the trajectory much more tangible.
Please make more suggestions in case you agree.
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