[DIYbio] Re: [biocurious] Re: [CCL] lab-on-a-chip

Wow, this got really interesting while I was out of Internet reach...

Thomas and Grene Labs received permission to film in the lab and use the BioCurious logo incidentally in the video, showing that's where the demo was filmed. BioCurious is not currently an official sponsor or promoter. Thomas graciously offered to teach a class or make other arrangements (provide equipment at a discount, help us standardize our current setup, etc.) to say thanks to the lab for having a place to film.

(And thanks for the good catch, Cathal - we try to protect use of our logo and brand, without ruthlessly policing it. I appreciate the whole community looking out for us.)

BioCurious is considered a public venue, and we allow people to film with prior arrangement. Reporters need permission. Surreptitious filming is not allowed. It's customary to get permission, either verbal or formal, when filming people for any commercial use. If I'm in the lab, and there are cameras out, and I don't want to be filmed, I ask them to stop or I leave. Or I speak to the staff on duty.

If anyone has serious concerns about being misrepresented in a video that Grene Labs did, please continue to pursue it with Grene Labs directly, but also please let me know.

And, as a matter of course, BioCurious encourages both open and commercial projects, and we encourage proper attribution. We don't have formal policies on any of this - it's more of a Golden Rule / social contract.

I encourage a good, open discussion here, but, hey - keep it civil, folks. That's also a BioCurious community value. And the Internet is like amber for damned foolishness.

That sounds officious. But I wanted to do the transparent disclosure stuff on BioC's involvement.

Now personal opinion:

I'm a funder of the project. I don't know if they can do what they say - microfluidics is harder than it first looks, and this sounds ambitious.

But I see a crowd-funded biotech project, I'm supporting it. Hell, I'm a funder of Glowing Plant, and my personal reservations about the approach there are pretty well known.

I'm concerned because some neat projects with potential to move the needle are going unfunded. Note the Yovivo! project (disclosure: I'm an advisor).

I haven't had a good chance to vet the Grene Labs lab-on-a-chip approach. I'm hoping to. I'd like it even better if we do something as a community to (politely) ask probing questions, and to challenge technical and legal assumptions. Maybe we can get Thomas to do an open meeting on that, in addition to a class, if we haven't welcomed him too warmly already.

Final personal thought - listing the device as educational is not a dodge, but standard guidance and legal practice to help keep it from being used for diagnostics or medical use. Marketing a crowd-funded project as having potential in this area, without over-promising , is just trying to do some good world - saving.

And, see, I almost got through this entire thing without saying anything about white male privilege.

Yours,
Raymond

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