Re: [DIYbio] Tecan Robot Initialization Error

Hello,


Fortunately, I have fixed the error the bioshake drivers were not uploaded correctly and it was causing a freeze of the system.

On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 10:11:18 AM UTC-5 Rikke wrote:
Hi Payton, 

Hope you've already managed to clear the error - if not, I have a few pointers, and can probably give you more with a little more information. 

Let's start with the obvious - have you already power cycled everything? As in, power down the robot, disconnect from circuit, wait to let all caps bleed off, then reconnect and power on. 

Next: are there any error messages? If so, can you share screen shots? 

Also: if possible, open another method - do you get the same behavior? 

Lastly: each of the arms (assuming you have a standard 3-arm config with a RoNa, an MC96 and a LiHa) should be running their own homing routine during initialization - do any of them complete correctly? 

Feel free to DM me if you're still stuck. 

Cheers, 
Rikke 

On Mon, Jun 21, 2021, 16:43 Payton Brown <paytonb...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, 
I was recently tasked with making a fully automatic worklist maker for the Tecan Freedom Evo I am attempting to test my worklist compatibility and the robot will not initialize out of the blue. It worked perfect last Friday and now it has decided to not work. Whenever I press initialize the robot moves the tips slightly and then the alarm sounds and the initialization fails. None of the tips are stuck any suggestions?

-Payton Brown

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Re: [DIYbio] Tecan Robot Initialization Error

Hi Payton, 

Hope you've already managed to clear the error - if not, I have a few pointers, and can probably give you more with a little more information. 

Let's start with the obvious - have you already power cycled everything? As in, power down the robot, disconnect from circuit, wait to let all caps bleed off, then reconnect and power on. 

Next: are there any error messages? If so, can you share screen shots? 

Also: if possible, open another method - do you get the same behavior? 

Lastly: each of the arms (assuming you have a standard 3-arm config with a RoNa, an MC96 and a LiHa) should be running their own homing routine during initialization - do any of them complete correctly? 

Feel free to DM me if you're still stuck. 

Cheers, 
Rikke 

On Mon, Jun 21, 2021, 16:43 Payton Brown <paytonbrown816@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, 
I was recently tasked with making a fully automatic worklist maker for the Tecan Freedom Evo I am attempting to test my worklist compatibility and the robot will not initialize out of the blue. It worked perfect last Friday and now it has decided to not work. Whenever I press initialize the robot moves the tips slightly and then the alarm sounds and the initialization fails. None of the tips are stuck any suggestions?

-Payton Brown

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[DIYbio] LAST CHANCE: DIY Bio Community Survey 2021

DIY Bio Community Survey 2021

 

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We'd appreciate it if you could circulate the link via twitter, mailing lists etc. The more DIY biologists take part, the better.

 

Given the experiences and the changes individuals and the community has gone through in the past decade, I would greatly appreciate it if you would take part in this 2021 DIY Biology Community Survey. Since the last survey of the DIYBio community was done in 2013, the purpose of this study is to help address issues of sensationalism and negative portrayals of DIYbio by updating and building a more holistic and empirically-based understanding of the community.

 

The results will be online as soon as the survey closes but will also be presented at the Global DIY bio Summit 2021.


Everyone who identifies as a member or participant of the DIYBio community can take part. If you have any questions, please do let me know.

 

 

 

 

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Re: [DIYbio] Re: A prediction made 20 years ago fufilled by COVID .. coincidence?

On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 2:52 AM Raza <etcwar_d@hotmail.com> wrote:
it seems unlikely that biologists doing research into mutation and virus geneology would not be doing their own sequencing

This is my biggest hurdle in the "they're censoring the data" conspiracy.  "They" would have to convince everyone with a sequencer to cooperate, which isn't feasible.  Compare the likelihood that a shadowy cabal has their fingers in literally every lab in the entire world, vs. people not being as prepared as they should have been despite advance warning.  One happens all the time on all levels of human organization; the other, well... you can make up your own mind how likely it is, I guess.

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[DIYbio] Tecan Robot Initialization Error

Hello, 

I was recently tasked with making a fully automatic worklist maker for the Tecan Freedom Evo I am attempting to test my worklist compatibility and the robot will not initialize out of the blue. It worked perfect last Friday and now it has decided to not work. Whenever I press initialize the robot moves the tips slightly and then the alarm sounds and the initialization fails. None of the tips are stuck any suggestions?

-Payton Brown

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[DIYbio] Re: Biodistribution of genetic vaccines

Basically, I was wondering to hear your opinions on this matter, as here are a lot of smart people from all sub-fields of biology and biotechnology

On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 2:58:17 PM UTC+2 Andreas "Mega" Stuermer wrote:
Hi guys, 

Disclaimer: Everyone who knows me knows that I am a big fan of vaccines. 

You might have heard that mRNA vaccines might be connected to myocarditis; and Adenovirus vector vaccine might be connected to rare blood clots.

I came across this very interesting scientific opinion piece in the BMJ. They argue that with genetic vaccines, the biodistribution should be better studied. 

"The pharmacovigilance data confirmed the [cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (CVST) ] incidences with all genetic vaccines (viral or non-viral vector), however, the regulatory authorities in their recent investigations reported that the CVST was unusually accompanied with thrombocytopenia in subjects injected with CoViD-19 viral vector vaccines (such as AstraZeneca and J&J/Janssen) than those injected with mRNA vaccines. We, therefore, looked at the preclinical studies of these vaccines to ascertain their biodistribution to body tissues (for instance brain) beyond the injection site for a possible explanation of the rare fatal clots formed in the brain."

"For COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine (Pfizer or Moderna), the biodistribution studies in animals were not conducted. The surrogate studies with luciferase and solid-lipid nanoparticles (Pfizer) confirm a biodistribution to the liver and other body tissues beyond the administration site [5]. For Moderna, the biodistribution of mRNA-1647 (encoding CMV genes) formulated in a similar lipid nanoparticulate delivery system confirms a biodistribution beyond the injection site, in particular, the distribution to the lymph nodes, spleen and the eye was noted [6]. However, the detailed tissue-specific distribution of mRNA vaccines encoding SARS-CoV-2 spike proteins (Pfizer or Moderna) is not fully known that can offer invaluable insights into the potential safety of these vaccines in peoples with pre-existing conditions or those on certain medications."


It does not sound too unreasonable that not all the LNPs/virus you inject into muscles remain there and gets taken up by muscle cells. Especially when you work with cationic liposomes, they will get taken up by any cell. And I have seen videos of people being injected with contrast liquid for radiologic imaging - that liquid gets distributed insanely fast through the blood. Assuming some mRNA gets delivered to heart cells... How much will stay in the injection site and ho much might leak? How long would they stay in the heart to fuse with those cells? Isn't there epithelial lining? Lots of questions. 

The article mentions that the current vaccines are still much better than the alternative (blood clots by COVID, which occur at a much higher rate). 

The recommendation is, to change the viral vectors or Lipid-Nanoparticles to be tissue specific. I have read of a company that incorporates proteins into uncharged LNPs and when the proteins bin to their ligand, tissue specific delivery is achieved. Here is the company (I don't have any ties to them or currently buy from them: Precision NanoSystems, Inc.). Viruses might be pseudotyped to go into specific cells only (fibroblasts, muscle cells?).

"However, if genetic vaccines were to be sustained beyond the CoViD19 pandemic, a tissue targeted approach may be the way forward to limit the antigen (the encoding gene) distribution to the intended tissues only to improve the vaccine safety profile for a global mass public rollout. In comparison, the conventional vaccine approaches (classic non-genetic formulations) have a long history of human use across much wider age groups (infants to elderly) and have an established safety profile despite the current challenges in antigen propagation and large-scale production in a timely manner using conventional methods."

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[DIYbio] Biodistribution of genetic vaccines

Hi guys, 


Disclaimer: Everyone who knows me knows that I am a big fan of vaccines. 

You might have heard that mRNA vaccines might be connected to myocarditis; and Adenovirus vector vaccine might be connected to rare blood clots.

I came across this very interesting scientific opinion piece in the BMJ. They argue that with genetic vaccines, the biodistribution should be better studied. 

"The pharmacovigilance data confirmed the [cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (CVST) ] incidences with all genetic vaccines (viral or non-viral vector), however, the regulatory authorities in their recent investigations reported that the CVST was unusually accompanied with thrombocytopenia in subjects injected with CoViD-19 viral vector vaccines (such as AstraZeneca and J&J/Janssen) than those injected with mRNA vaccines. We, therefore, looked at the preclinical studies of these vaccines to ascertain their biodistribution to body tissues (for instance brain) beyond the injection site for a possible explanation of the rare fatal clots formed in the brain."

"For COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine (Pfizer or Moderna), the biodistribution studies in animals were not conducted. The surrogate studies with luciferase and solid-lipid nanoparticles (Pfizer) confirm a biodistribution to the liver and other body tissues beyond the administration site [5]. For Moderna, the biodistribution of mRNA-1647 (encoding CMV genes) formulated in a similar lipid nanoparticulate delivery system confirms a biodistribution beyond the injection site, in particular, the distribution to the lymph nodes, spleen and the eye was noted [6]. However, the detailed tissue-specific distribution of mRNA vaccines encoding SARS-CoV-2 spike proteins (Pfizer or Moderna) is not fully known that can offer invaluable insights into the potential safety of these vaccines in peoples with pre-existing conditions or those on certain medications."

https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n958/rr-1

It does not sound too unreasonable that not all the LNPs/virus you inject into muscles remain there and gets taken up by muscle cells. Especially when you work with cationic liposomes, they will get taken up by any cell. And I have seen videos of people being injected with contrast liquid for radiologic imaging - that liquid gets distributed insanely fast through the blood. Assuming some mRNA gets delivered to heart cells... How much will stay in the injection site and ho much might leak? How long would they stay in the heart to fuse with those cells? Isn't there epithelial lining? Lots of questions. 

The article mentions that the current vaccines are still much better than the alternative (blood clots by COVID, which occur at a much higher rate). 

The recommendation is, to change the viral vectors or Lipid-Nanoparticles to be tissue specific. I have read of a company that incorporates proteins into uncharged LNPs and when the proteins bin to their ligand, tissue specific delivery is achieved. Here is the company (I don't have any ties to them or currently buy from them: Precision NanoSystems, Inc.). Viruses might be pseudotyped to go into specific cells only (fibroblasts, muscle cells?).

"However, if genetic vaccines were to be sustained beyond the CoViD19 pandemic, a tissue targeted approach may be the way forward to limit the antigen (the encoding gene) distribution to the intended tissues only to improve the vaccine safety profile for a global mass public rollout. In comparison, the conventional vaccine approaches (classic non-genetic formulations) have a long history of human use across much wider age groups (infants to elderly) and have an established safety profile despite the current challenges in antigen propagation and large-scale production in a timely manner using conventional methods."

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Re: [DIYbio] Re: A prediction made 20 years ago fufilled by COVID .. coincidence?

Independent panel on the strategic screwups
 > the Independent Panel systematically, rigorously and comprehensively examined why COVID-19 became a global health and socio-economic crisis.


On Monday, 7 June 2021 at 18:04:03 UTC+8 Raza wrote:
Re: Cathal - Good info, thanks!


On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 11:14:33 AM UTC+2 Cathal Garvey wrote:
I recall early on they got a sequence of the original strain, which is probably termed "alpha" now under new WHO guidelines.

Anyway, it was pretty clear that it was just SARS after some evolution - changes mostly seemed incremental. Occams razor would seem to still suggest that it was as it always appeared to be: a long-threatened return of the same respiratory virus with some adaptations to let it break through this time and evade containment. The virus name indicates this: SARS-CoV2.

There is still the possibility of bio-error, that a lab handling SARS research samples may have accidentally let some escape, and that possibility is being taken seriously by some.

But it's less likely, in my opinion at least: the two vectors being "lab of trained technicians with specialised containment equipment" versus "much much bigger lab full of poachers with no training about zoonoses and no PPE".

As regards "bioterror", I would say that's practically outlandish. It's wholly unnecessary to explain anything about covid. And frankly, based on the horrific work done by the USA and USSR we know that deliberate effort can produce far more lethal outcomes. And if a less-resoirced group wanted to make a new outbreak I would guess they'd start somewhere other than a coronavirus. Yersinia Pestis would be a good place to start - did you know that it's basically unknown why the bubonic plague stopped circulating so widely in the late 1800s?

TLDR: The spread, mortality, etc. of COVID are quite consistent with a novel coronavirus. Bioerror is a less likely (IMO) possibility. The epidemiological community have been warning about new zoonotic pandemic outbreaks for decades and SARS and MERS were nearly it. In that respect, COVID's not special: just "third time lucky".

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6 Jun 2021, 09:52 by etcw...@hotmail.com:
Addendum. The reason I was talking about home-sequencing is that the conspiracy theorist I'm citing here claimed that scientists working with corona-DNA were all getting their sequence from a single apparently-trusted source, which would make it vulnerable to censorship. However, on consideration, it seems unlikely that biologists doing research into mutation and virus geneology would not be doing their own sequencing, and it seems not likely that an infectiousness-increasing engineered addition would have disappeared from the DNA of the still-spreading virus. Thus, it becomes much easier still to answer this question: no sequencing should be required, just grab a bunch of spread-as-far-apart-as-possible (in terms of the labs having done the sequencing) copies of published corona DNA and do the checking against HIV and gene-editing sequences. 

On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 10:39:46 AM UTC+2 Raza wrote:
I'm out of the loop - is this 'bioerror or bioterror' considered conspiracy craziness, or actually being accepted about COVID?

More importantly, how well is it supported? I've had people whom I consider a bit conspiracy-nuts make the claim to me that COVID was engineered; specifically, that some piece of HIV DNA was inserted into a coronavirus to make it more infectious/infectious to humans. And while that's clearly something to treat with a load of skepticism in an environment with so much motivated conspiracy theorizing going on, it's not fundamentally unrealistic. More importantly still, it seems like something that an independent biologist could fairly easily confirm or deny, if they sequenced corona and did some bioforensics. A piece of HIV DNA should be easily recognized, and in my limited expertise its insertion would probably leave detectable traces of recognizable gene-edit-supporting DNA somewhere as well, which would be further highlighted by differing from original previous DNA. 

I haven't been inclined to believe this claim so far, but AFAIC, science means operationalizing your hypotheses and checking the data rather than doing ideological flag-waving with the most science-community-approved opinion. It'd be really cool if a DIY biologist who just got a positive corona test would home-sequence their snot and provide some independent data on this - the biosafety would hardly get worse if they were sitting around and being contageous anyway.
On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 6:35:21 AM UTC+2 drllau wrote:

The long-now foundation encourages thinking beyond the next Wall-st quarter or even a single life-space. Here, an early bet

"A bioterror or bioerror will lead to one million casualties in a single event within a six month period starting no later than Dec 31 02020."

seems to be firmly on the side of the proponent. Some of the counter-arguments
  •  Pool of potential perpetrators: The number of people eager for senseless destruction is small
  • Multiply by the fraction with the knowledge, skill, intelligence, and discipline to engineer a superbug
  • chance that the Black Hat will defeat the White Hats, namely the world's medical and epidemiological networks, who would combat an outbreak with containment, vaccines, antibiotics, etc.
  • historical (ir)relevance The only successful past cases of bioterror are the Rajneeshee cult (751 cases, 0 deaths) and the Anthrax mailing (5 deaths). The Soviet-era anthrax bioweapon leak killed another 66.
Some of comments reflect how incredibly fast synthetic biology has advance in 2 decades


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[DIYbio] potent longevity factor common to multiple aging processes found

It has been known for some time that excess methionine, an amino acid, accelerates aging, is carcinogenic, and has other pathological effects. 

in modern society excess methionine results from a diet that we did not evolve with and are not engineered for. specifically, we evolved eating much more of the animals we hunted, not just their muscle, including bones and cartilage as well. while muscle is high and methionine, bone and cartilage are high in glycine. Methionine is used in many different reactions. One of them which essentially eliminates it from the body occurs in conjunction with glycine. both glycine and methionine are eliminated together. 

So we eat much more methionine than glycine, leaving the unmatched methionine to accrue and wreak havoc. 

A new study provided below published in June reveals an underlying mechanism common to many known causes of aging and leading to significant longevity. It is the increased down regulation of folate metabolism with age The rather complex biochemical mechanism through which reduced folate extends life is reduction of methionine and modulation of the methionine cycle intermediates. 

And so we see in this incredibly rigorous and detailed paper that there is the simplest of levers, a single amino acid, common to many of the known processes that drive aging. It's impact is hard to believe.  According the authors, "Methionine restriction has a profound effect on physiology and regulates longevity through multiple mechanisms. First described to prolong life span in rodents, it shows overlapping but also distinct features from other longevity models. Notably, MR reduces adiposity, IGF-1, insulin, thyroid hormone levels, increases stress resistance, energy expenditure, insulin sensitivity as well as adiponectin and FGF21 levels. In concert with these changes, MR reportedly alters mitochondrial function, increasing aerobic capacity, and fatty acid oxidation utilization, as well as affecting redox state, reducing mitochondrial ROS production and altering glutathione and peroxidase levels48. Further, it can prolong life span in progeria models, and delay age-related decline in immune and cardiovascular function, as well as reduce cellular senescence in the kidney45. More recent work has suggested possible benefits of MR on human health including obesity, cancer, and various serum biomarkers."

The only thing that makes it a challenge to reduce dietary methionine is that there is so much of it in so many foods. High-glycine foods are not as appetizing.  We also synthesize in the body from other sources. It turns out that one of the ways the drug Metformin works is by reducing methionine synthesis.

So if you're over 50 stop taking folate supplements and start eating metformin like peanuts.

 

Summary: https://www.mpg.de/17011181/one-for-all-convergent-mechanism-of-ageing-discovered

Full paper: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-23856-9

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[DIYbio] Re: Looking for spectrophotometer, any good DIY options?

The iGEM 2014 team from Aachen put together a nice low-cost DIY OD & fluorescence cuvette measurement device.

I don't know if that satisfies all of your specifications, but it's well documented and might be a nice starting point: http://2014.igem.org/Team:Aachen/OD/F_device

Thanks,
-Jake


On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 1:09:59 PM UTC-5 betanic wrote:

I'm looking to buy or build a spectrophotometer for my lab. I would like to use it to determine DNA, RNA, protein, and cell culture concentrations. Based on my research I think a nanodrop style is better because of the low volume, but whatever works is fine.

The only DIY option I have found is the build here:
With a video and modification done by Justin Atkin

Anyways, both the hackteria build and Justin's modifications seem incomplete, especially for the full set of uses I would like.

Has anyone here built there own spectrophotometer or have any advice on building one?
I might end up just buying a nanodrop but considering how expensive it is I'm obviously considering all options, and definitely willing to build my own if I can get together a blueprint.

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Re: [DIYbio] A blood test for the early detection of cancer - Biomarkers Apo10 and TKTL1

That being said, interestingly, no test developed so far can match the sensitivity of a dog's smell. Dogs trained to detect  particular type  of cancer correctly identify persons with cancer more accurately than the best early stage biomarker screens. 


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Subject: [DIYbio] A blood test for the early detection of cancer - Biomarkers Apo10 and TKTL1

Hello everyone,
for some time now there has been a company in Germany that offers a blood test to identify 20 different types of cancer at a very early stage. The test is based on the testing of macrophage contents. The method is described here:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31771043/

Have any of you heard of this before? I wonder why this is not more common in oncology and early detection and if there is a catch?

Thank you very much and best regards
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Re: [DIYbio] A blood test for the early detection of cancer - Biomarkers Apo10 and TKTL1

Early stage cancer screening by detecting biomarkers in blood has been around for about 10 years now.  Examples are Cologuard which detects colon cancer. Kaiser Permanente standardized on it in CA a few years ago.  and EarlyCDT for lung cancer called , which I took years ago. There are are multiple companies that make these tests. the tests usually consist of some combination of samples from blood, saliva, stool, breath, urine, etc. Each cancer screen usually measures multiple biomarkers. Seldom is it an all or nothing result. It's more like you get a score for each molecule and then an oeral risk of having the cancer. As we have discovered new biomarkers for specific cancers, these test products have gotten more sensitive and selective as they add additional molecules to the set that constitutes the test for the given cancer. These tests are underutilized. They can detect cancer well before the soonest it can be seen in imaging. 

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Hello everyone,
for some time now there has been a company in Germany that offers a blood test to identify 20 different types of cancer at a very early stage. The test is based on the testing of macrophage contents. The method is described here:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31771043/

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[DIYbio] A blood test for the early detection of cancer - Biomarkers Apo10 and TKTL1

Hello everyone,
for some time now there has been a company in Germany that offers a blood test to identify 20 different types of cancer at a very early stage. The test is based on the testing of macrophage contents. The method is described here:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31771043/

Have any of you heard of this before? I wonder why this is not more common in oncology and early detection and if there is a catch?

Thank you very much and best regards
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Re: [DIYbio] Better than the approved vaccines...check it out

This is an IgM antibody that can be given as a nasal spray that may have prophylactic and treatment uses if given soon before or after exposure. It's intended use is *very* different to a vaccine and the comparison does not seem especially useful.

The 230-fold potency figure is comparing the IgM antibody against an IgG antibody on which it was based. Clearly this is a useful boost but no comparison was made against a vaccine.

It was tested as a single dose given either 6 hours before or after infection in mice. It is not clear how frequently it would need to be administered in humans to provide continuous protection - but this would not be it's likely use. A single dose would provide only temporary protection. It might have value as a treatment after a COVID diagnosis is made or as a prophylactic if you have been exposed to someone with COVID.

On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 at 17:29, Frank <fgarcia0007@gmail.com> wrote:
Since there was some COVID discussion I thought you might like this:

-  nasal spray
- 230x more potent that current vaccines
- effective against all known variants
- single dose

here:

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Since there was some COVID discussion I thought you might like this:

-  nasal spray
- 230x more potent that current vaccines
- effective against all known variants
- single dose

here:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34082438/

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[DIYbio] Chitosan Hydrogel preparation

Hi
Has anyone here used hydrogels such as chitosan as injectable scaffold or vehicle? I need to prepare an injectable chitosan gel loaded with PRP. The purpose is to keep the platelets in place longer that they would remain if injected as PRP alone.

Do I have to make the chitosan gel myself from crystalized chitosan (which would be a deal breaker) or can I get a ready to go gel? Is hyaluronic acid gel (as an alternative) significantly less porous than the chitosan?

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Re: [DIYbio] “For sale,” “Service," "Barter,” or “Free” section/thread?

I'm looking for a laminar flow hood, west of Portland Oregon.

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Re: [DIYbio] “For sale,” “Service," "Barter,” or “Free” section/thread?

I have also played at the auctions, and often found more than what I was looking for


Tools I am looking for (and will pay for)

Nanodrop 
Sonicator (Qsonix q125 or Misonix probe type)
High pressure type Homogenizer (anything from Avestin but also any french press type homogenizer > 20k psi)
Bead-beater type homogenizer
Freeze-drier
Shell Freezer

Equipment I have of some value that I'm down to sell or trade or if you are local give away

-80 freezers, mostly Harris SLT-21V-85D14
-centrifuges of a variety of sizes and types, the nice ones were the Eppendorf 5804 and 5417R, and the Beckman Coulter 25R
Harris Laboratory Freezer Model SLT-21V-85D14 
eppendorf Centrifuges 5804, 5417R

I also have some -20s and some smaller centrifuges

Thanks!  I'm in New Orleans

ben.g.hunt@gmail.com





On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 8:21:57 AM UTC-5 John Griessen wrote:
On 5/26/21 2:48 PM, Yuriy wrote:
> John, Do you have a direct link?

Here is an example list that is about selling things related to other lists about HP and Tektronix test gear:

https://groups.io/g/Test-Equipment-For-Sale-Wanted-or-Exchange/message/2451

(It's not about bio equipment though...)

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Re: [DIYbio] Re: A prediction made 20 years ago fufilled by COVID .. coincidence?

Re: Cathal - Good info, thanks!



On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 11:14:33 AM UTC+2 Cathal Garvey wrote:
I recall early on they got a sequence of the original strain, which is probably termed "alpha" now under new WHO guidelines.

Anyway, it was pretty clear that it was just SARS after some evolution - changes mostly seemed incremental. Occams razor would seem to still suggest that it was as it always appeared to be: a long-threatened return of the same respiratory virus with some adaptations to let it break through this time and evade containment. The virus name indicates this: SARS-CoV2.

There is still the possibility of bio-error, that a lab handling SARS research samples may have accidentally let some escape, and that possibility is being taken seriously by some.

But it's less likely, in my opinion at least: the two vectors being "lab of trained technicians with specialised containment equipment" versus "much much bigger lab full of poachers with no training about zoonoses and no PPE".

As regards "bioterror", I would say that's practically outlandish. It's wholly unnecessary to explain anything about covid. And frankly, based on the horrific work done by the USA and USSR we know that deliberate effort can produce far more lethal outcomes. And if a less-resoirced group wanted to make a new outbreak I would guess they'd start somewhere other than a coronavirus. Yersinia Pestis would be a good place to start - did you know that it's basically unknown why the bubonic plague stopped circulating so widely in the late 1800s?

TLDR: The spread, mortality, etc. of COVID are quite consistent with a novel coronavirus. Bioerror is a less likely (IMO) possibility. The epidemiological community have been warning about new zoonotic pandemic outbreaks for decades and SARS and MERS were nearly it. In that respect, COVID's not special: just "third time lucky".

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6 Jun 2021, 09:52 by etcw...@hotmail.com:
Addendum. The reason I was talking about home-sequencing is that the conspiracy theorist I'm citing here claimed that scientists working with corona-DNA were all getting their sequence from a single apparently-trusted source, which would make it vulnerable to censorship. However, on consideration, it seems unlikely that biologists doing research into mutation and virus geneology would not be doing their own sequencing, and it seems not likely that an infectiousness-increasing engineered addition would have disappeared from the DNA of the still-spreading virus. Thus, it becomes much easier still to answer this question: no sequencing should be required, just grab a bunch of spread-as-far-apart-as-possible (in terms of the labs having done the sequencing) copies of published corona DNA and do the checking against HIV and gene-editing sequences. 

On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 10:39:46 AM UTC+2 Raza wrote:
I'm out of the loop - is this 'bioerror or bioterror' considered conspiracy craziness, or actually being accepted about COVID?

More importantly, how well is it supported? I've had people whom I consider a bit conspiracy-nuts make the claim to me that COVID was engineered; specifically, that some piece of HIV DNA was inserted into a coronavirus to make it more infectious/infectious to humans. And while that's clearly something to treat with a load of skepticism in an environment with so much motivated conspiracy theorizing going on, it's not fundamentally unrealistic. More importantly still, it seems like something that an independent biologist could fairly easily confirm or deny, if they sequenced corona and did some bioforensics. A piece of HIV DNA should be easily recognized, and in my limited expertise its insertion would probably leave detectable traces of recognizable gene-edit-supporting DNA somewhere as well, which would be further highlighted by differing from original previous DNA. 

I haven't been inclined to believe this claim so far, but AFAIC, science means operationalizing your hypotheses and checking the data rather than doing ideological flag-waving with the most science-community-approved opinion. It'd be really cool if a DIY biologist who just got a positive corona test would home-sequence their snot and provide some independent data on this - the biosafety would hardly get worse if they were sitting around and being contageous anyway.
On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 6:35:21 AM UTC+2 drllau wrote:

The long-now foundation encourages thinking beyond the next Wall-st quarter or even a single life-space. Here, an early bet

"A bioterror or bioerror will lead to one million casualties in a single event within a six month period starting no later than Dec 31 02020."

seems to be firmly on the side of the proponent. Some of the counter-arguments
  •  Pool of potential perpetrators: The number of people eager for senseless destruction is small
  • Multiply by the fraction with the knowledge, skill, intelligence, and discipline to engineer a superbug
  • chance that the Black Hat will defeat the White Hats, namely the world's medical and epidemiological networks, who would combat an outbreak with containment, vaccines, antibiotics, etc.
  • historical (ir)relevance The only successful past cases of bioterror are the Rajneeshee cult (751 cases, 0 deaths) and the Anthrax mailing (5 deaths). The Soviet-era anthrax bioweapon leak killed another 66.
Some of comments reflect how incredibly fast synthetic biology has advance in 2 decades


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Re: [DIYbio] Re: A prediction made 20 years ago fufilled by COVID .. coincidence?

I recall early on they got a sequence of the original strain, which is probably termed "alpha" now under new WHO guidelines.

Anyway, it was pretty clear that it was just SARS after some evolution - changes mostly seemed incremental. Occams razor would seem to still suggest that it was as it always appeared to be: a long-threatened return of the same respiratory virus with some adaptations to let it break through this time and evade containment. The virus name indicates this: SARS-CoV2.

There is still the possibility of bio-error, that a lab handling SARS research samples may have accidentally let some escape, and that possibility is being taken seriously by some.

But it's less likely, in my opinion at least: the two vectors being "lab of trained technicians with specialised containment equipment" versus "much much bigger lab full of poachers with no training about zoonoses and no PPE".

As regards "bioterror", I would say that's practically outlandish. It's wholly unnecessary to explain anything about covid. And frankly, based on the horrific work done by the USA and USSR we know that deliberate effort can produce far more lethal outcomes. And if a less-resoirced group wanted to make a new outbreak I would guess they'd start somewhere other than a coronavirus. Yersinia Pestis would be a good place to start - did you know that it's basically unknown why the bubonic plague stopped circulating so widely in the late 1800s?

TLDR: The spread, mortality, etc. of COVID are quite consistent with a novel coronavirus. Bioerror is a less likely (IMO) possibility. The epidemiological community have been warning about new zoonotic pandemic outbreaks for decades and SARS and MERS were nearly it. In that respect, COVID's not special: just "third time lucky".

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6 Jun 2021, 09:52 by etcwar_d@hotmail.com:
Addendum. The reason I was talking about home-sequencing is that the conspiracy theorist I'm citing here claimed that scientists working with corona-DNA were all getting their sequence from a single apparently-trusted source, which would make it vulnerable to censorship. However, on consideration, it seems unlikely that biologists doing research into mutation and virus geneology would not be doing their own sequencing, and it seems not likely that an infectiousness-increasing engineered addition would have disappeared from the DNA of the still-spreading virus. Thus, it becomes much easier still to answer this question: no sequencing should be required, just grab a bunch of spread-as-far-apart-as-possible (in terms of the labs having done the sequencing) copies of published corona DNA and do the checking against HIV and gene-editing sequences. 

On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 10:39:46 AM UTC+2 Raza wrote:
I'm out of the loop - is this 'bioerror or bioterror' considered conspiracy craziness, or actually being accepted about COVID?

More importantly, how well is it supported? I've had people whom I consider a bit conspiracy-nuts make the claim to me that COVID was engineered; specifically, that some piece of HIV DNA was inserted into a coronavirus to make it more infectious/infectious to humans. And while that's clearly something to treat with a load of skepticism in an environment with so much motivated conspiracy theorizing going on, it's not fundamentally unrealistic. More importantly still, it seems like something that an independent biologist could fairly easily confirm or deny, if they sequenced corona and did some bioforensics. A piece of HIV DNA should be easily recognized, and in my limited expertise its insertion would probably leave detectable traces of recognizable gene-edit-supporting DNA somewhere as well, which would be further highlighted by differing from original previous DNA. 

I haven't been inclined to believe this claim so far, but AFAIC, science means operationalizing your hypotheses and checking the data rather than doing ideological flag-waving with the most science-community-approved opinion. It'd be really cool if a DIY biologist who just got a positive corona test would home-sequence their snot and provide some independent data on this - the biosafety would hardly get worse if they were sitting around and being contageous anyway.
On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 6:35:21 AM UTC+2 drllau wrote:

The long-now foundation encourages thinking beyond the next Wall-st quarter or even a single life-space. Here, an early bet

"A bioterror or bioerror will lead to one million casualties in a single event within a six month period starting no later than Dec 31 02020."

seems to be firmly on the side of the proponent. Some of the counter-arguments
  •  Pool of potential perpetrators: The number of people eager for senseless destruction is small
  • Multiply by the fraction with the knowledge, skill, intelligence, and discipline to engineer a superbug
  • chance that the Black Hat will defeat the White Hats, namely the world's medical and epidemiological networks, who would combat an outbreak with containment, vaccines, antibiotics, etc.
  • historical (ir)relevance The only successful past cases of bioterror are the Rajneeshee cult (751 cases, 0 deaths) and the Anthrax mailing (5 deaths). The Soviet-era anthrax bioweapon leak killed another 66.
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[DIYbio] Re: A prediction made 20 years ago fufilled by COVID .. coincidence?

Addendum. The reason I was talking about home-sequencing is that the conspiracy theorist I'm citing here claimed that scientists working with corona-DNA were all getting their sequence from a single apparently-trusted source, which would make it vulnerable to censorship. However, on consideration, it seems unlikely that biologists doing research into mutation and virus geneology would not be doing their own sequencing, and it seems not likely that an infectiousness-increasing engineered addition would have disappeared from the DNA of the still-spreading virus. Thus, it becomes much easier still to answer this question: no sequencing should be required, just grab a bunch of spread-as-far-apart-as-possible (in terms of the labs having done the sequencing) copies of published corona DNA and do the checking against HIV and gene-editing sequences. 

On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 10:39:46 AM UTC+2 Raza wrote:
I'm out of the loop - is this 'bioerror or bioterror' considered conspiracy craziness, or actually being accepted about COVID?

More importantly, how well is it supported? I've had people whom I consider a bit conspiracy-nuts make the claim to me that COVID was engineered; specifically, that some piece of HIV DNA was inserted into a coronavirus to make it more infectious/infectious to humans. And while that's clearly something to treat with a load of skepticism in an environment with so much motivated conspiracy theorizing going on, it's not fundamentally unrealistic. More importantly still, it seems like something that an independent biologist could fairly easily confirm or deny, if they sequenced corona and did some bioforensics. A piece of HIV DNA should be easily recognized, and in my limited expertise its insertion would probably leave detectable traces of recognizable gene-edit-supporting DNA somewhere as well, which would be further highlighted by differing from original previous DNA. 

I haven't been inclined to believe this claim so far, but AFAIC, science means operationalizing your hypotheses and checking the data rather than doing ideological flag-waving with the most science-community-approved opinion. It'd be really cool if a DIY biologist who just got a positive corona test would home-sequence their snot and provide some independent data on this - the biosafety would hardly get worse if they were sitting around and being contageous anyway.

On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 6:35:21 AM UTC+2 drllau wrote:

The long-now foundation encourages thinking beyond the next Wall-st quarter or even a single life-space. Here, an early bet

"A bioterror or bioerror will lead to one million casualties in a single event within a six month period starting no later than Dec 31 02020."

seems to be firmly on the side of the proponent. Some of the counter-arguments
  •  Pool of potential perpetrators: The number of people eager for senseless destruction is small
  • Multiply by the fraction with the knowledge, skill, intelligence, and discipline to engineer a superbug
  • chance that the Black Hat will defeat the White Hats, namely the world's medical and epidemiological networks, who would combat an outbreak with containment, vaccines, antibiotics, etc.
  • historical (ir)relevance The only successful past cases of bioterror are the Rajneeshee cult (751 cases, 0 deaths) and the Anthrax mailing (5 deaths). The Soviet-era anthrax bioweapon leak killed another 66.
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[DIYbio] Re: A prediction made 20 years ago fufilled by COVID .. coincidence?

I'm out of the loop - is this 'bioerror or bioterror' considered conspiracy craziness, or actually being accepted about COVID?

More importantly, how well is it supported? I've had people whom I consider a bit conspiracy-nuts make the claim to me that COVID was engineered; specifically, that some piece of HIV DNA was inserted into a coronavirus to make it more infectious/infectious to humans. And while that's clearly something to treat with a load of skepticism in an environment with so much motivated conspiracy theorizing going on, it's not fundamentally unrealistic. More importantly still, it seems like something that an independent biologist could fairly easily confirm or deny, if they sequenced corona and did some bioforensics. A piece of HIV DNA should be easily recognized, and in my limited expertise its insertion would probably leave detectable traces of recognizable gene-edit-supporting DNA somewhere as well, which would be further highlighted by differing from original previous DNA. 


I haven't been inclined to believe this claim so far, but AFAIC, science means operationalizing your hypotheses and checking the data rather than doing ideological flag-waving with the most science-community-approved opinion. It'd be really cool if a DIY biologist who just got a positive corona test would home-sequence their snot and provide some independent data on this - the biosafety would hardly get worse if they were sitting around and being contageous anyway.

On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 6:35:21 AM UTC+2 drllau wrote:

The long-now foundation encourages thinking beyond the next Wall-st quarter or even a single life-space. Here, an early bet

"A bioterror or bioerror will lead to one million casualties in a single event within a six month period starting no later than Dec 31 02020."

seems to be firmly on the side of the proponent. Some of the counter-arguments
  •  Pool of potential perpetrators: The number of people eager for senseless destruction is small
  • Multiply by the fraction with the knowledge, skill, intelligence, and discipline to engineer a superbug
  • chance that the Black Hat will defeat the White Hats, namely the world's medical and epidemiological networks, who would combat an outbreak with containment, vaccines, antibiotics, etc.
  • historical (ir)relevance The only successful past cases of bioterror are the Rajneeshee cult (751 cases, 0 deaths) and the Anthrax mailing (5 deaths). The Soviet-era anthrax bioweapon leak killed another 66.
Some of comments reflect how incredibly fast synthetic biology has advance in 2 decades

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[DIYbio] A prediction made 20 years ago fufilled by COVID .. coincidence?


The long-now foundation encourages thinking beyond the next Wall-st quarter or even a single life-space. Here, an early bet

"A bioterror or bioerror will lead to one million casualties in a single event within a six month period starting no later than Dec 31 02020."

seems to be firmly on the side of the proponent. Some of the counter-arguments

  •  Pool of potential perpetrators: The number of people eager for senseless destruction is small
  • Multiply by the fraction with the knowledge, skill, intelligence, and discipline to engineer a superbug
  • chance that the Black Hat will defeat the White Hats, namely the world's medical and epidemiological networks, who would combat an outbreak with containment, vaccines, antibiotics, etc.
  • historical (ir)relevance The only successful past cases of bioterror are the Rajneeshee cult (751 cases, 0 deaths) and the Anthrax mailing (5 deaths). The Soviet-era anthrax bioweapon leak killed another 66.
Some of comments reflect how incredibly fast synthetic biology has advance in 2 decades

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[DIYbio] Evaluation of an Inexpensive Growth Medium for Direct Detection of Escherichia coli in Temperate and Sub-Tropical Waters

https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0140997

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[DIYbio] article analysing the DIYbio Google Group

Dear all,

an article that analyses the discussions on the DIYbio Google Group:  

The rise of biohacking: Tracing the emergence and evolution of DIY biology through online discussions


Abstract

This article traces the rise and evolution of do-it-yourself biology, also known as biohacking, by analysing its main discussion forum, launched in 2008. Our methods combine three tools (Extractify, L@me, and iRaMuTeQ), a quantitative data analysis, and qualitative content analysis. Our analysis shows that the forum serves as a nexus for a variety of concerns: discuss science and technology, organise meetings, create groups, make announcements, reflect on issues such as ethics, law and regulation. Despite this heterogeneity, most discussions concern knowledge and equipment: one of the main functions of the forum is finding, sharing, documenting and developing techniques and protocols to do DIY biology. Our analysis further shows that in its beginnings, the forum was centered on one single city and that organisational matters were prominent in discussions. But with the rise of laboratories and local groups dedicated to DIY biology, the flow and content of communication has evolved. We identify a key turning point in the years 2013/2014, marked by a regional and economic structuration of the movement and a decrease in the overall traffic on the forum. We thus argue that the emergence of DIY biology has known two distinct phases: a phase of constitution (2008–2012) and a phase of maturation and autonomisation (from 2013 onwards). While the first phase is marked by the local dimensions of people's engagement and by exchanges of knowledge and methods, the second phase is marked by more strategic efforts to sustain and institutionalize the community and by a more reflexive stance concerning its autonomy and positionality.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0040162520310325


best

Morgan 

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