Re: [DIYbio] Re: OpenPCR

> Seriously, don't support people who are just out to make money off of
> DiyBio folks

This was what I was responding to. I understand that you don't see the
value in OpenPCR as a project, and that's fine; just a difference of
opinion. But I don't think that statement was a fair thing to say about
Tito & Josh offhand.

On 01/02/13 15:36, Josiah Zayner wrote:
> How was that hostile?
> I did not personally attack them at all. I pointed out empirical things.
>
> You believe they filled a gap and maybe they did. I believe there was no
> need for a $600 openpcr machine. I know we have had this discussion to
> death in other threads.
>
> I know you live in Ireland and having stuff that heavy shipped from eBay
> and go through customs can be a bitch. However, I think your case is
> more of an exception case rather than rule.
>
> From this list and online it appears that a large majority of DIYBioers
> are Americans. In that case it is hard to tell them to support a product
> that doesn't support the community when eBay is such a great and cheap
> resource.
>
> I have no reason or need to argue with you. You seem like a decent guy
> at heart from what I see online.
>
> On Jan 31, 2013 5:32 PM, "Josiah Zayner" <josiah.zayner@gmail.com
> <mailto:josiah.zayner@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/MJ-Research-Programmable-Thermal-Controller-Model-PTC-100-PTC100-Used-Condition-/221168862233?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337eb10419
>
> Can do 60 samples compared to OpenPCRs 16
>
> OpenPCR costs: $599 not including shipping
>
> This costs: $316 and includes shipping and guaranteed to work or
> full refund.
>
> Troll eBay for MJ research thermal controllers I found mine for $45
> and $35 shipping and it works fine.
>
> Search for "thermal controllers" even though the units are typically
> called thermal cyclers because people list them as Thermal
> controllers and no one bids on them.
>
> If you don't believe me check this really nice one that went for
> <$130 two weeks ago:
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/MJ-RESEARCH-PTC-100-PROGRAMMABLE-THERMAL-CONTROLLER-/251212740568?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7d7237d
> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/MJ-RESEARCH-PTC-100-PROGRAMMABLE-THERMAL-CONTROLLER-/251212740568?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7d7237d8>8
>
> If OpenPCR gave back to the community I might be more inclined to
> tell you to support them but look at their website. No PCR protocols
> or tutorials. No links to tell you were to buy reagents. Most
> comments on their forum are not even answered. Seriously, don't
> support people who are just out to make money off of DiyBio folks.
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 7:00:02 PM UTC-6, G Lyons wrote:
>
> Hello all-
>
> I was wondering what peoples' experiences have been with the
> OpenPCR thermal cycler. Is it simple to construct and is it just
> as effective as the regular ones?
>
> Thanks!
>
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