Re: [DIYbio] Open Source Hardware (Case studies)

In my personal experience everyone I met started with or became interested in the DIYBio movement from a place of passion and creative curiosity.  The DIY aspect was attractive to me because, not everyone gets invited inside the ivory tower of academia or has access to R1 schools and labs.  Just because you aren't a mechanic for a NASCAR or Formula 1 team doesn't mean you can't buy a junk car and some tools and tinker in your garage. 

To me DIYBio was allowing access to "do science" outside of the normal places you do science.  What you're able to learn should be delinked from age and resources, though it often isn't.  Doing science is expensive.  The tools are expensive, the reagents are expensive, and proper space is expensive.  Over time that bleeds you dry. And yes, I know it can be done "on the cheap". 

The "open" aspect of sharing went away after taking investor money in my case.  And then once you can no longer live at your parents, bills start piling up to live, and hobbies generally don't pay the bills.  So you grow up and get a job and have less time to tinker for the sake of it.  Big props to the people that were able to make viable businesses, if even for short periods of time, in this space. 

I met some amazing people in person and online from this list and still keep in touch with a number of them!

On Tue, May 19, 2026 at 10:16 AM Hans <hanstwilms@gmail.com> wrote:

That's the DIYBio discord. It's more active than this, but not very.
What were you trying to do with DIYbio? I wanted to manufacture super cheap enzymes for other DIYBio people. It was Keoni doing the FreeGenes stuff, but I think that's dead too.

What do you guys think killed the DIYbio movement?

-Hans Wilms

On Mon, May 18, 2026, 8:10 PM Dakota Hamill <dkotes@gmail.com> wrote:
Very cool piece of open hardware and nice documentation.  Electrical engineering seems to be where open source shines. 

On Fri, May 15, 2026 at 10:01 PM S James Parsons Jr <sjamesparsonsjr@gmail.com> wrote:
opulo LumenPnP

On May 14, 2026, at 7:19 PM, Dakota Hamill <dkotes@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone come across any case studies of businesses that have adhered to the open source model and shared all the nitty gritty details of creating, manufacturing, pricing, and selling an open source product for a profit? 

I came across an interesting talk a while back 


Which was then followed by someone who wrote a book on the topic 

Open Hardware Basics and Business Alicia Gibb


I know Adafruit and Sparkfun have done pretty well, but it seems like open source fits well with electrical engineering.  Arduino is now closed source?  MakerBot was a big one in the early days to go closed once they took money. 

This open source bioreactor is cool and is the type of product I'd be interested in seeing a case study on.  https://pioreactor.com

More interested in the science-hardware side of things but wondering of any other examples I've not been able to find.  Seems like there's a lot of individual projects but very few "DIYBio" style companies at the size/scale of AdaFruit or Sparkfun. 

I get that transistors are much cheaper and easier to store than enzymes. 


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Re: [DIYbio] Digest for diybio@googlegroups.com - 1 update in 1 topic

The movement did not die, I think, at least in part, it just went local. I co-founded a local biospace inside a makerspace in Durham NC in 2016 (Splat Space Community Biolab; splatspace.org and tridiybio.org, the latter slightly out of date), mainly with surplus equipment from my home lab (roningenetics.org) which is also active. We now have 8-9 active members in the community lab, have helped spun off one agbiotech company (elysiabio.com) and are hosting another, East America Science. We are actively building the lab and applying for grants, and have gotten two recently. Our communication is largely within our group. People are too busy with their internal projects and I suspect some have never even heard ot this group. I suspect some of the other local labs are also largely focused on their own projects too.

By the way, that thread last month about Bishop and the Epstein files, while somewhat off point, may have actually been useful for spurring some activity on this site.

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Hans <hanstwilms@gmail.com>: May 19 10:16AM -0400

https://discord.gg/55uXhnHgy
 
That's the DIYBio discord. It's more active than this, but not very.
What were you trying to do with DIYbio? I wanted to manufacture super cheap
enzymes for other DIYBio people. It was Keoni doing the FreeGenes stuff,
but I think that's dead too.
 
What do you guys think killed the DIYbio movement?
 
-Hans Wilms
 
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Re: [DIYbio] Open Source Hardware (Case studies)


That's the DIYBio discord. It's more active than this, but not very.
What were you trying to do with DIYbio? I wanted to manufacture super cheap enzymes for other DIYBio people. It was Keoni doing the FreeGenes stuff, but I think that's dead too.

What do you guys think killed the DIYbio movement?

-Hans Wilms

On Mon, May 18, 2026, 8:10 PM Dakota Hamill <dkotes@gmail.com> wrote:
Very cool piece of open hardware and nice documentation.  Electrical engineering seems to be where open source shines. 

On Fri, May 15, 2026 at 10:01 PM S James Parsons Jr <sjamesparsonsjr@gmail.com> wrote:
opulo LumenPnP

On May 14, 2026, at 7:19 PM, Dakota Hamill <dkotes@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone come across any case studies of businesses that have adhered to the open source model and shared all the nitty gritty details of creating, manufacturing, pricing, and selling an open source product for a profit? 

I came across an interesting talk a while back 


Which was then followed by someone who wrote a book on the topic 

Open Hardware Basics and Business Alicia Gibb


I know Adafruit and Sparkfun have done pretty well, but it seems like open source fits well with electrical engineering.  Arduino is now closed source?  MakerBot was a big one in the early days to go closed once they took money. 

This open source bioreactor is cool and is the type of product I'd be interested in seeing a case study on.  https://pioreactor.com

More interested in the science-hardware side of things but wondering of any other examples I've not been able to find.  Seems like there's a lot of individual projects but very few "DIYBio" style companies at the size/scale of AdaFruit or Sparkfun. 

I get that transistors are much cheaper and easier to store than enzymes. 


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Re: [DIYbio] Open Source Hardware (Case studies)

Very cool piece of open hardware and nice documentation.  Electrical engineering seems to be where open source shines. 

On Fri, May 15, 2026 at 10:01 PM S James Parsons Jr <sjamesparsonsjr@gmail.com> wrote:
opulo LumenPnP

On May 14, 2026, at 7:19 PM, Dakota Hamill <dkotes@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone come across any case studies of businesses that have adhered to the open source model and shared all the nitty gritty details of creating, manufacturing, pricing, and selling an open source product for a profit? 

I came across an interesting talk a while back 


Which was then followed by someone who wrote a book on the topic 

Open Hardware Basics and Business Alicia Gibb


I know Adafruit and Sparkfun have done pretty well, but it seems like open source fits well with electrical engineering.  Arduino is now closed source?  MakerBot was a big one in the early days to go closed once they took money. 

This open source bioreactor is cool and is the type of product I'd be interested in seeing a case study on.  https://pioreactor.com

More interested in the science-hardware side of things but wondering of any other examples I've not been able to find.  Seems like there's a lot of individual projects but very few "DIYBio" style companies at the size/scale of AdaFruit or Sparkfun. 

I get that transistors are much cheaper and easier to store than enzymes. 


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Re: [DIYbio] Open Source Hardware (Case studies)

opulo LumenPnP


On May 14, 2026, at 7:19 PM, Dakota Hamill <dkotes@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone come across any case studies of businesses that have adhered to the open source model and shared all the nitty gritty details of creating, manufacturing, pricing, and selling an open source product for a profit? 

I came across an interesting talk a while back 


Which was then followed by someone who wrote a book on the topic 

Open Hardware Basics and Business Alicia Gibb


I know Adafruit and Sparkfun have done pretty well, but it seems like open source fits well with electrical engineering.  Arduino is now closed source?  MakerBot was a big one in the early days to go closed once they took money. 

This open source bioreactor is cool and is the type of product I'd be interested in seeing a case study on.  https://pioreactor.com

More interested in the science-hardware side of things but wondering of any other examples I've not been able to find.  Seems like there's a lot of individual projects but very few "DIYBio" style companies at the size/scale of AdaFruit or Sparkfun. 

I get that transistors are much cheaper and easier to store than enzymes. 


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Re: [DIYbio] Open Source Hardware (Case studies)

I thought Keoni Gandal (Spelling) was doing FreeGenes a while back.  I hear you on the other fronts. I bought 2 Pioreactors and gave them away, rest of lab is in a storage unit, headed back to academia.  Startup life teaches you a lot but rarely pays the bills.  

What's the discord server link? 

If anyone ever wants to apply to YCombinator some day and tackle one of their calls for biotech companies, let me know. 




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Now THIS is what this mostly dead google groups is about. 
My colleague just got the bioreactor, and it's been pretty amazing as a chemostat to study the effects of doubling time. Really great build.

I remember getting all the enzymes from one of the guys that started the OpenBioeconomy lab (think it was called FreeGenes back then?). But as an individual without a -80C, it's really hard to keep shit going... I packed up my DIY lab a long time ago and rejoined academia to scratch that itch.

I think any Opensauce has to have a financial drive behind it. Someone has to be able to make money off it to keep things going. Otherwise they all just... peter out. 

Also, any of you on the DIYbio discord?

On Thu, May 14, 2026 at 7:20 PM Dakota Hamill <dkotes@gmail.com> wrote:
Has anyone come across any case studies of businesses that have adhered to the open source model and shared all the nitty gritty details of creating, manufacturing, pricing, and selling an open source product for a profit? 

I came across an interesting talk a while back 


Which was then followed by someone who wrote a book on the topic 

Open Hardware Basics and Business Alicia Gibb


I know Adafruit and Sparkfun have done pretty well, but it seems like open source fits well with electrical engineering.  Arduino is now closed source?  MakerBot was a big one in the early days to go closed once they took money. 

This open source bioreactor is cool and is the type of product I'd be interested in seeing a case study on.  https://pioreactor.com

More interested in the science-hardware side of things but wondering of any other examples I've not been able to find.  Seems like there's a lot of individual projects but very few "DIYBio" style companies at the size/scale of AdaFruit or Sparkfun. 

I get that transistors are much cheaper and easier to store than enzymes. 

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Re: [DIYbio] Open Source Hardware (Case studies)

Now THIS is what this mostly dead google groups is about. 
My colleague just got the bioreactor, and it's been pretty amazing as a chemostat to study the effects of doubling time. Really great build.

I remember getting all the enzymes from one of the guys that started the OpenBioeconomy lab (think it was called FreeGenes back then?). But as an individual without a -80C, it's really hard to keep shit going... I packed up my DIY lab a long time ago and rejoined academia to scratch that itch.

I think any Opensauce has to have a financial drive behind it. Someone has to be able to make money off it to keep things going. Otherwise they all just... peter out. 

Also, any of you on the DIYbio discord?

On Thu, May 14, 2026 at 7:20 PM Dakota Hamill <dkotes@gmail.com> wrote:
Has anyone come across any case studies of businesses that have adhered to the open source model and shared all the nitty gritty details of creating, manufacturing, pricing, and selling an open source product for a profit? 

I came across an interesting talk a while back 


Which was then followed by someone who wrote a book on the topic 

Open Hardware Basics and Business Alicia Gibb


I know Adafruit and Sparkfun have done pretty well, but it seems like open source fits well with electrical engineering.  Arduino is now closed source?  MakerBot was a big one in the early days to go closed once they took money. 

This open source bioreactor is cool and is the type of product I'd be interested in seeing a case study on.  https://pioreactor.com

More interested in the science-hardware side of things but wondering of any other examples I've not been able to find.  Seems like there's a lot of individual projects but very few "DIYBio" style companies at the size/scale of AdaFruit or Sparkfun. 

I get that transistors are much cheaper and easier to store than enzymes. 

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[DIYbio] Open Source Hardware (Case studies)

Has anyone come across any case studies of businesses that have adhered to the open source model and shared all the nitty gritty details of creating, manufacturing, pricing, and selling an open source product for a profit? 

I came across an interesting talk a while back 


Which was then followed by someone who wrote a book on the topic 

Open Hardware Basics and Business Alicia Gibb


I know Adafruit and Sparkfun have done pretty well, but it seems like open source fits well with electrical engineering.  Arduino is now closed source?  MakerBot was a big one in the early days to go closed once they took money. 

This open source bioreactor is cool and is the type of product I'd be interested in seeing a case study on.  https://pioreactor.com

More interested in the science-hardware side of things but wondering of any other examples I've not been able to find.  Seems like there's a lot of individual projects but very few "DIYBio" style companies at the size/scale of AdaFruit or Sparkfun. 

I get that transistors are much cheaper and easier to store than enzymes. 

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Re: [DIYbio] Re: So...

Sure. Of course. That's a false equivalence though. Children don't get a say in a lot of things. We still draw a distinction between necessary and elective medical procedures.

Anyway, my main point was "shut up about it, it doesn't affect you" is a pretty shitty argument.

On Sat, May 2, 2026, 6:43 PM Nathan McCorkle <nmz787@gmail.com> wrote:


On Thursday, April 30, 2026 at 5:33:47 PM UTC-7 Dan wrote:
The child in question does not get a say in the decisions you make for them, and we are right to be concerned on their behalf.

No child ever in the hundreds of thousands of years of homo sapiens, has a child had the right (or ability) to get a say in their genetic makeup. The parents themselves have in fact only had anything but fuzzy proxies until the past few decades.

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[DIYbio] Lab Space

I need to rent some lab space for about a month to practice/brush up some basic molecular biology techniques (PCR, gel electrophoresis, cloning) with instructor supervision.
I am based in London, UK, though I am open to locations within reasonable travelling distance. We are two people — myself and a qualified supervisor with research experience in molecular biology.
We are looking for basic bench space in a suitable lab environment. We are flexible on equipment and reagents and happy to discuss arrangements with any potential host.
If you have space available, or know of any, please get in touch. All responses welcome — London-based or otherwise.

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Re: [DIYbio] Re: So...

Human cloning is 100% reprehensible, and engineering for anything but the remedy of unambiguous disease alleles is ego-trip TESCREAL horseshit.

Even if it weren't being done with a group of people who openly write about eugenic murder of disabled and elderly people, it would still be reprehensible on its face.

You're right: the objectification of infants for ego-stroking edgelord crypto billionaires "runs hot".

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29 Apr 2026, 19:45 by kanzure@gmail.com:
On Wed, Apr 29, 2026 at 1:18 PM 'Cathal Garvey' via DIYbio <diybio@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Wow, reveals new and exciting forms of reprehensible child abuse by Epstein, enthusiastically facilitated by someone from this community. I wasn't actually expecting it to be this bad and, yet

Anything regarding Jeffrey Epstein tends to run very hot. That name has become a lightning rod for anyone to imagine any evil or disgusting thing they want. I hope for reasonable minds and the evidence to prevail. I hope people ask questions before jumping to whatever their absolute worst imagination can drum up.

Anyone who wants to discuss the technology that I've advocated for out in the open for more than a decade, then you're more than welcome. But I won't engage in any witch hunts.

Want to learn more about my efforts in human embryo genetic engineering? Take a look here on my site:

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Re: [DIYbio] Re: So...

cloned*

On Wed, Apr 29, 2026 at 4:11 PM alexaxon62 <alexaxon62@gmail.com> wrote:
Matt, very few people in this group would claim that clones cell lines for exclusively therapeutic purposes or that gene editing to prevent hereditary disease is somehow inherently wrong. Cathal specifically qualified "anything but the remedy of unambiguous disease alleles". The precise language around the intended project was, verbatim, "the first live birth of a human designer baby, and possibly a human clone, within 5 years", which is markedly different to what you are implying is the subject of ethical questioning. Regardless, your mention of distrust rooted in "religious superstition and raw emotion" does affirm that it exists, and widely so; and how is one to work, or convince others of their work's virtue, when subjects like this cannot be addressed?

On Wed, Apr 29, 2026 at 4:07 PM 'Cathal Garvey' via DIYbio <diybio@googlegroups.com> wrote:
That isn't the application they were planning. It was explicitly the psych-case cloning of individuals. The articles shared uplist are revealing.

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29 Apr 2026, 20:59 by forkface242@gmail.com:
100%? That's "absolute" BS. Therapeutic cloning isn't all about eugenics — think totipotent ESCs and organ replacement. What's reprehensible about either of those benefits that isn't rooted in religious superstition and raw emotion?

Now, if you're talking about the bioethics of having a complete individual exist who is extremely similar to you — that's a different issue entirely. Probably one for a psychiatrist.

Will someone remind me why we're talking about frikkin' Epstein on the DIYBio chat? FFS.




From: 'Cathal Garvey' via DIYbio <diybio@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2026 11:55:32 AM
To: Diybio <diybio@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [DIYbio] Re: So...
 
Human cloning is 100% reprehensible, and engineering for anything but the remedy of unambiguous disease alleles is ego-trip TESCREAL horseshit.

Even if it weren't being done with a group of people who openly write about eugenic murder of disabled and elderly people, it would still be reprehensible on its face.

You're right: the objectification of infants for ego-stroking edgelord crypto billionaires "runs hot".

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29 Apr 2026, 19:45 by kanzure@gmail.com:
On Wed, Apr 29, 2026 at 1:18 PM 'Cathal Garvey' via DIYbio <diybio@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Wow, reveals new and exciting forms of reprehensible child abuse by Epstein, enthusiastically facilitated by someone from this community. I wasn't actually expecting it to be this bad and, yet

Anything regarding Jeffrey Epstein tends to run very hot. That name has become a lightning rod for anyone to imagine any evil or disgusting thing they want. I hope for reasonable minds and the evidence to prevail. I hope people ask questions before jumping to whatever their absolute worst imagination can drum up.

Anyone who wants to discuss the technology that I've advocated for out in the open for more than a decade, then you're more than welcome. But I won't engage in any witch hunts.

Want to learn more about my efforts in human embryo genetic engineering? Take a look here on my site:

Thank you,


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Re: [DIYbio] Re: So...

Matt, very few people in this group would claim that clones cell lines for exclusively therapeutic purposes or that gene editing to prevent hereditary disease is somehow inherently wrong. Cathal specifically qualified "anything but the remedy of unambiguous disease alleles". The precise language around the intended project was, verbatim, "the first live birth of a human designer baby, and possibly a human clone, within 5 years", which is markedly different to what you are implying is the subject of ethical questioning. Regardless, your mention of distrust rooted in "religious superstition and raw emotion" does affirm that it exists, and widely so; and how is one to work, or convince others of their work's virtue, when subjects like this cannot be addressed?

On Wed, Apr 29, 2026 at 4:07 PM 'Cathal Garvey' via DIYbio <diybio@googlegroups.com> wrote:
That isn't the application they were planning. It was explicitly the psych-case cloning of individuals. The articles shared uplist are revealing.

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29 Apr 2026, 20:59 by forkface242@gmail.com:
100%? That's "absolute" BS. Therapeutic cloning isn't all about eugenics — think totipotent ESCs and organ replacement. What's reprehensible about either of those benefits that isn't rooted in religious superstition and raw emotion?

Now, if you're talking about the bioethics of having a complete individual exist who is extremely similar to you — that's a different issue entirely. Probably one for a psychiatrist.

Will someone remind me why we're talking about frikkin' Epstein on the DIYBio chat? FFS.




From: 'Cathal Garvey' via DIYbio <diybio@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2026 11:55:32 AM
To: Diybio <diybio@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [DIYbio] Re: So...
 
Human cloning is 100% reprehensible, and engineering for anything but the remedy of unambiguous disease alleles is ego-trip TESCREAL horseshit.

Even if it weren't being done with a group of people who openly write about eugenic murder of disabled and elderly people, it would still be reprehensible on its face.

You're right: the objectification of infants for ego-stroking edgelord crypto billionaires "runs hot".

Fuck this.

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29 Apr 2026, 19:45 by kanzure@gmail.com:
On Wed, Apr 29, 2026 at 1:18 PM 'Cathal Garvey' via DIYbio <diybio@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Wow, reveals new and exciting forms of reprehensible child abuse by Epstein, enthusiastically facilitated by someone from this community. I wasn't actually expecting it to be this bad and, yet

Anything regarding Jeffrey Epstein tends to run very hot. That name has become a lightning rod for anyone to imagine any evil or disgusting thing they want. I hope for reasonable minds and the evidence to prevail. I hope people ask questions before jumping to whatever their absolute worst imagination can drum up.

Anyone who wants to discuss the technology that I've advocated for out in the open for more than a decade, then you're more than welcome. But I won't engage in any witch hunts.

Want to learn more about my efforts in human embryo genetic engineering? Take a look here on my site:

Thank you,


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