Re: [DIYbio] Fwd: [OpenSCAD] License for scad files

Cathal, I had lunch with Richard Stallman years ago and he seemed
interested in non-software related open-source licenses, though I
didn't get to talk much about DNA specifically. Maybe he would be
interested in your case or know someone who would be:
rms at gnu period org.

On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Cathal Garvey
<cathalgarvey@cathalgarvey.me> wrote:
> My early stuff is still CC-BY-SA-NC, which is irrevocable (with good
> reason). I've since relicensed twice: once to switch to CC-BY-SA (I
> attained anti-NC enlightenment) and once to switch to GPL, realising
> that as far as it matters, OpenSCAD remains "source code" for a
> compiled file in the same way that source code for a program is for a
> compiled binary.
>
> The process of "compilation" is what distinguishes
> source code, and whether the product is a binary or a physible or a DNA
> molecule appears to me irrelevant, though I don't know whether a court
> would back me up.
>
> So, people can pick whether they like CC-BY-SA or GPL, but I rather GPL.
>
> In the end, it's irrelevant to my own needs; someone ripped off
> Dremelfuge on Shapeways (that is, they derived without licensing
> freely, let alone an optional nod or attributive note), and Shapeways
> have taken the position that it's not their problem, and I lack the
> money or motivation to threaten suit. So the license is nice, but
> without enforcement it's no use.
>
> Yes, if a big guy (TM) ripped me off, I'd contemplate suing them for
> free licensing and legal fees, so it's not pointless. Just griping, I
> guess; copyright and patents are not designed to protect or facilitate
> small people, and good things built upon them inherit this basic
> uselessness.
>
> On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 18:58:26 -0400
> "Meredith L. Patterson" <clonearmy@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Naive question: what about (L)GPL/GFDL instead of (L)GPL/CC?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> --mlp
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Bryan Bishop <kanzure@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > From: Johannes Reinhardt <jreinhardt@ist-dein-freund.de>
>> > Date: Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 4:55 PM
>> > Subject: [OpenSCAD] License for scad files
>> > To: "openscad@rocklinux.org" <openscad@rocklinux.org>
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi everybody,
>> >
>> > while working on BOLTS, I started to think about licensing and scad
>> > code and realised that this is a quite complicated topic. I am not a
>> > lawyer, so I struggled quite a bit with that. Licenses are of some
>> > importance to BOLTS, because I want to make sure, that existing code
>> > can be incorporated with little effort, and for that I have to make
>> > sure that this is legally possible.
>> >
>> > I reached a state where I think I understood and then tried to
>> > write it up:
>> >
>> > http://jreinhardt.github.io/BOLTS/doc/general/licensing.html
>> >
>> > However, today I thought about it from another perspective and
>> > struggled again, so I decided to ask for your expertise, maybe you
>> > can point out if I misunderstood something.
>> >
>> > The main problem for me is that scad code is somehow both code and
>> > content. On the one hand one can see a scad file as something that
>> > is a description of an object, just like a stl file. If you look at
>> > it like that, then a CC license makes perfect sense.
>> >
>> > On the other hand, scad code is very much code. You can have a scad
>> > library that is not a description of an object. For that, I feel, a
>> > license tailored towards code, like the GPL or LGPL is better
>> > suited. MCAD for example is LGPL.
>> >
>> > But CC and (L)GPL are incompatible, which means that one cannot use
>> > them together. Unfortunately, a lot of the scad code that is around
>> > is CC licensed, because the standard license on thingiverse is CC.
>> > I find this very unsatisfactory that the available scad code is
>> > fragmented into legally incompatible subsets.
>> >
>> > Greetings
>> >
>> > Johannes
>> >
>> >
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