[DIYbio] [CCL] lab-on-a-chip

In your video, you claim to use a chip that requires no power. Typically, such devices such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lateral_flow_test are one shot and specific to a particular biomarker in the blood, and as Louis points out, biomarkers are typically in the blood or urine, not the chip. You don't make any effort to describe which disease or health conditions you plan to treat. You don't describe nor reference any published scientific papers or results of studies performed. You don't describe how results are read from the chip. You don't describe any statistical significance tests nor indicate the rate of false negative or false positive results. You are no scientist, you are a hack.

All of these things should be done before you even begin to perform testing on humans. 

If you plan to make a business, you either need to understand your competitive landscape, or have something so brilliant or new that it has no competition. If you haven't done the due diligence to realize $600+ for a transilluminator is two or three times the nearest comparable! and still went ahead and are attempting to sell them, you are not a very wise business operator, and on those grounds alone,  you don't have the chops to be entering the very crowded lab on a chip market. The space for lateral flow health tests is thick with competition and patents/ip. If you haven't done the basic business work on a transilluminator, what qualifies you to do serious medical device development? Perhaps you should talk to Eri, who can describe the difficulties of medical device business development.

The purpose of pointing out Pearl biotech is that IF you are relying on Raymond's advice on how to fund and promote your business, you need to know that he didn't point you at one or two very local resources, people who SIT ON THE BIOCURIOUS BOARD WITH HIM that he knew of that could have helped cut your costs in half, and perhaps also helped in other ways. You led with an indiegogo campaign that is underpromoted and flew your flag without reaching out to people who could have actually helped you.

And, quite frankly, you need to follow this advice: https://twitter.com/indiefundit/status/400324705443258368

Quit trying to sell overpriced, useless trash and beef up your website with real info.

You don't come off like a person genuinely interested in helping advance science or developing nations. You come off like an entitled white male spoiled child, who wants us to give you $125 so that you give a hunk of plastic to a developing country, with no clear description of it beyond making it sound like an overpriced home pregnancy test. You copy but don't cite the many people whose shoulders you stand on, and then get huffy when people point out your white male privilege. You need to be less offended, and take a good hard look at how you appear to others. You need to seek out some people from "developing nations" who know something about the diagnostics market and can help you craft your message in something other than breathless woo woo about saving the world and curing all disease.

You are not a charity. If you want to make a difference, come over to Oakland and help improve the health and welfare of a struggling community mere miles away. Counter Culture Labs is open to all who want to make a difference, but it's not going to come from a get rich scheme on a crowd funding site. If you make more profit than those you attempt to help, ur doin it wrong. Plastic trinkets and piss strips aren't going to save lives or change the world. You might have good intentions: I can't know your mind. But opening the way you are leading reflects very poorly on those intentions.

Matt

On Thursday, November 21, 2013, Thomas Warinner wrote:

Hey Nathan and Patrick,

Thank you for that "warm" welcome haha. I have been working on ways to reduce the price of the transilluminator without buying overseas or in bulk (which I can't yet afford). This will be fixed when sales start coming in. I've been wanting to design a gel imager for awhile now, but the project took a back seat the the microfluidic chips. I'm updating the info on the chips tonight for you guys! I thought it a little confusing for the userbase of indiegogo, but I have no problem sprucing it up for people who are interested. 

Cheers,

Thomas

On Monday, November 11, 2013 3:22:10 PM UTC-8, hbergeronx wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQT-oQVaahg featuring the back of Patrik's head, and biocurious. Anyone know more about this? it's an indigogo campaign, but it seems to be a bit under the radar...http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/lab-on-a-chip-diagnostics-in-the-palm-of-your-hand

 

I have to admit i'm a bit skeptible when the video doesn't have any of the prototypes on it...

 

-matt

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