Jen: I would love to have the opportunity (I live in SF and visit Copenhagen annually) to sit down with you and hear your story through, end to end. It seems clear that you feel badly wronged, and I try to keep an open mind as to who or what has caused you to feel this way. I also think that as a woman deeply rooted in academia and technology, I understand what is like to be on the receiving end of The Evils of The Patriarchy(TM), as well as the fierce desire to avenge all those myriad slights and injustices. However: all that said, I still have to second the requests that you cease using this list as a medium for your campaign. To paraphrase Goethe:
<i>"She who fights with monsters should take heed that she herself does not become a monster."</i>
Nathan: +1 - always succint, always on point.
/Rikke
On Jun 24, 2014 10:28 PM, "Nathan McCorkle" <nmz787@gmail.com> wrote:
-- --On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Jen Kotila <jen.kotila01@gmail.com> wrote:I don't want to see it fail. I want to see it grow and thrive. We need to fix this horrifying systemic problem in some way.If the people you were hanging out with suck, and those weird people were tolerated by the rest of the group where you were, why did you keep going back to a place where such negativity wasn't addressed and corrected? Why didn't you make sure only to go to the maker/hacker/lab space in shared company while someone you trusted was present? Why didn't you tell us to watch ourselves sooner?Sending out pages and pages to an internet list is not the solution. We all agree that science is awesome and we love to study it, but who hasn't experienced falling asleep when studying from a seemingly endless text-book? We get that something is wrong, but we're not a legal team... we can't verify any of this and what can we do other than heed your warning? Some people are more risk-seeking, or maybe more defensive, or maybe more vulnerable. If this was an assault issue, you probably should have contacted your local police immediately.So IMO, if something weird happens and it seems like it might be possible for it to happen again to others, please let us know. Keep things succinct, otherwise people who glance or skim the mailing list won't miss warnings.Thanks for letting us know, please keep us updated as/if new details/resolutions/incidents emerge.P.S. In the U.S.A. we have a national database of sexual crimes offenders, so we take this kind of thing very seriously here:National Sex
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