Re: [DIYbio] Counter Culture Labs + BioCurious do iGEM: Real Vegan Cheese!

On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 3:03 AM, Ryan Pandya <ryan.pandya@gmail.com> wrote:
This dilemma is exactly what Muufri's having trouble mulling over. We're entirely supportive of open science, but we have to admit that it is a lower priority, for us, than getting vegan dairy out on the market. At the end of the day, disincentivized high schoolers matter less to us than exploited animals.

If it has to be one or the other, we choose vegan dairy over open science. And the thing is, it's still not clear to me that the best strategy for wide-scale adoption of Muufri/Real Vegan Cheese/Etc is compatible with open-science ideals. 

Let me be clear - I don't doubt that it can be done, but Perumal, Isha, and I don't know enough to strategize at that level. Ultimately, you folks are a LOT more knowledgeable (and passionate) about the IP issue than we are. 

Again, we're happy to discuss this and we'd consider collaborating and sharing our data, but so far we've been hitting a brick wall with you guys...

My problem is that you haven't shared anything. Where is your wiki? Where is your open mailing list? Where is the info for calling in to participate in your open meetings?

If Muufri wants to know all about our research you can just follow our mailing list and read our wiki or listen in to our weekly meetings. If you want to talk to us, they can use our mailing list or speak up at our weekly meetings.

We have no info about what you are working on other than the recent new scientist article and scant website. If you want us to ask then I hereby ask: Please share your research with us! We are already sharing all of ours with, not just you, but with the world.

We would love to collaborate, but not if it is a one-way collaboration.

The ball is entirely in your court here.

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marc/juul

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