Re: [DIYbio] Autoclaving 2d printer cartridges?

-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux)
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=wOG4
-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/
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=lZVT
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
I think it depends on the structure. ABS doesn't "melt" at autoclave
temperatures, but it enters a glass transition phase (most formulations
of ABS, anyway?), during which it becomes very malleable. I've
autoclaved some small items and found little ill effect except a change
in surface quality, whereas others which had a lot of leverage upon
their bases simply collapsed due to the decreased support.

Specifially, I had a prototype for my DNA model lying around which was
very elongated, and lacked bases linking the helices; I decided to test
autoclaving on that, and the two helices collapsed. Something simple and
fairly low-potential like a dremelfuge is likely to come out more or
less intact, but I did find that surfaces could pit or change;
tolerances, therefore, may also be eroded.

On 04/08/14 20:15, Otto Heringer wrote:
> What autoclave temp do you use, Sebastian!?
> Because I've successfully autoclavated a plenty of 3D printed ABS parts
> (even some PLA, but on a complete closed flask) - but ok, I admit: after
> some autoclavation cicles, things bot a little melted
>
> Em sábado, 2 de agosto de 2014 10h06min16s UTC-3, Sebastian escreveu:
>>
>> The cartridges are probably made of ABS plastic which isn't
>> autoclavable. The best plastic for the autoclave is polypropylene. Also the
>> microfluidic circuits might get damaged by the temp alone. Not sure if it
>> will handle it. Why not a bath in light bleach or print with it using a
>> head cleaning cycle. Maybe hydrogen peroxide?
>>
>> Sebastian S. Cocioba
>> CEO & Founder
>> New York Botanics, LLC
>> Plant Biotech R&D
>> ------------------------------
>> From: jem <javascript:>
>> Sent: ‎8/‎1/‎2014 6:44 AM
>> To: diy...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>
>> Subject: [DIYbio] Autoclaving 2d printer cartridges?
>>
>> ello!
>>
>> Has anyone done this? I have put together a couple of diybio machines and
>> I integrated one with a 3d printer as hey it was easier than all the fiddly
>> wiring with the cd drives. So I was looking at autoclaving these
>> cartridges... has anyone tried this and did they work afterwards? I was
>> going to remove the electronics on the bottom but I suspect reattaching
>> them will not be feasible...
>>
>> Thanks,
>> jem
>>
>> --
>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>> Groups DIYbio group. To post to this group, send email to
>> diy...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. To unsubscribe from this group,
>> send email to diybio+un...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. For more
>> options, visit this group at
>> https://groups.google.com/d/forum/diybio?hl=en
>> Learn more at www.diybio.org
>> ---
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "DIYbio" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to diybio+un...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>.
>> To post to this group, send email to diy...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>
>> .
>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/diybio.
>> To view this discussion on the web visit
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/diybio/788b7730-ff70-4a97-913e-2f94fa72ee2c%40googlegroups.com
>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/diybio/788b7730-ff70-4a97-913e-2f94fa72ee2c%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>
>> .
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>
>

--
T: @onetruecathal, @IndieBBDNA
P: +353876363185
W: http://indiebiotech.com

  • Digg
  • Del.icio.us
  • StumbleUpon
  • Reddit
  • RSS

0 comments:

Post a Comment