Re: [DIYbio] Legislation and/or standards affecting DIYbio or Biohacking in your country

Wikipedia doesn't like "original research", you generally require offsite sources.

On 23 March 2016 10:00:33 GMT+00:00, Dennis Oleksyuk <mail@dennis-o.com> wrote:

Then why not publish what you have to say on Wikipedia? You can author the page titled Gene Editing Legislation in EU. 

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 6:08 PM Cathal Garvey <cathalgarvey@cathalgarvey.me> wrote:

Shouting into the void is nice and all, but I'm personally a fan of
good, well-curated canonical resources. You might as well say wikipedia
is useless and we should all just blog random factoids and leave it up
to massive, corporate-owned search-engines to "Organise the world's
information".

On Tue, 2016-03-22 at 22:00 +0000, Dennis Oleksyuk wrote:
> Google search is way better than any wiki platform or other thing that
> requires coordination. Just post what you have to say as a blog post
> on some well known platform like https://wordpress.com/ and everyone
> everywhere will be able to find it very easily.
>
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 8:24 AM Andrew Gray <andrew.gray.d2@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>         Hey thanks for the interesting info. I haven't come across
>         anything painfully visible regarding an open resource
>         containing regulations for different countries but i'd be
>         happy to copy and paste what i come across. What country are
>         you operating out of? What regulations are you subject to?
>
>
>         On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 11:08:33 PM UTC+11, Cathal
>         (Phone) wrote:
>                 I would *love* to see a crowdsourced knowledgebase of
>                 regulation. When I was hoping to design IndieBB (a
>                 plasmid) for global shipping, one of the tough
>                 questions for me was how the law would apply to me and
>                 my customers in different countries. For example,
>                 apparently in France a plasmid with certain kinds of
>                 selective cassette is considered a GMO in itself,
>                 whereas in Ireland things are far more sane and only
>                 living cells can be considered GMO.
>
>                 There's also an unfortunate amount of "regulator
>                 head-canon" that isn't widely understood. For example,
>                 EU regulators appear to agree that "self cloning"
>                 applies to microorganisms, and "cis-genics" applies to
>                 macroorganisms, but not the other way around. This is
>                 contrary to the generally accepted language used by
>                 everyone but regulators, and has bizzarre side effects
>                 because (IIRC) both terms are used in the "contained
>                 use" regulations but one is absent from the
>                 "deliberate release" schedule... leading to paradoxes
>                 where engineered bacteria can be considered exempt
>                 from containment but not permitted for "deliberate
>                 release". Wut?
>
>                 Where should we put this data? I think another thread
>                 on the DIYbio wiki settlef on Github wikis...not ideal
>                 but at least portable someday to another system. Has
>                 anyone started said wiki?
>
>
>                 On 18 March 2016 11:56:10 GMT+00:00, Andrew Gray
>                 <andrew....@gmail.com> wrote:
>                         Hey gang,
>                         Hello from Australia! I've started a series of
>                         blog posts which is acting as an intro for
>                         DIYbio for Australians outside of what the
>                         mainstream media is interested in. I've done
>                         my first post
>                         http://bioquisitive.org.au/diybio-in-australia/
>
>
>
>                         The next post will be a big one as i dive into
>                         how Aus compares to the rest of the world from
>                         a legislation, standards, and safety context.
>                         Especially how community labs here are
>                         affected by this in comparison to the rest of
>                         the world. So i've come to you, the rest of
>                         the worlds biohackers and diybio'ers to hear
>                         more from you on how legislation affects what
>                         you do in your given location. You don't have
>                         to write out the entire legislation obviously
>                         but if you would be able to point me in the
>                         direction of the agencies, regulators,
>                         legislation or otherwise that either enforce
>                         or write the policy that directly affects what
>                         you do in the world of DIYbio i would really
>                         appreciate it! Also if there are any
>                         interesting notes you've made, maybe
>                         shortfalls or areas that are ridiculously
>                         restrictive in your eyes please do share!
>
>
>                         For example
>
>
>                         Down here in Australia, we have federal
>                         regulators (Office of The Gene Regulator, who
>                         have cool badges) who enforce legislation
>                         around what sort of gmo experiments can be
>                         conducted where. Certain things we don't have
>                         to report on due to certain host/vector combos
>                         being in an extremely low category of risk.
>                         However if they find out your violating any
>                         law due to negligence it could be lock up for
>                         you or heavy fines. Having said that, in the
>                         pursuit of transparency we have been in
>                         contact with them from day 1 largely due to
>                         BioFoundry's Meow Ludo who has been extremely
>                         persistent in creating strong channels of
>                         communication with them. They're actually
>                         really excited about us getting this movement
>                         off the ground as long as we maintain our
>                         effort of being as open and transparent as
>                         possible.
>
>
>                         In addition we also have to consider national
>                         standards which act as "guidelines" for
>                         construction and operation of various lab
>                         facilities such as AS/NZS 2243.3
>
>
>                         We're also subject to state level legislation
>                         which is pretty much just a repeat of what the
>                         OGTR has said in their legislation.
>
>
>                         So any information like that would be very
>                         appreciated, also if you could tell me a bit
>                         about your WetLab or Group and country of
>                         origin i would be very appreciative and be
>                         sure to give you a shout out in the next blog.
>
>
>                         Thanks guys,
>
>
>                         Andrew
>
>                 --
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>                 excuse my brevity.
>
>

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