In summary, please be careful and yes, my goal is ultimately to curb or end DIY Bio and k-12 bio activities that handle synthetic nucleic acids or utilize processes that would create such material.
It's not just DIYBio or K-12 you'd be (I think wrongly) trying to shut down. We rented lab space from a college that charges $58,000 a year in tuition for a biotech degree, the amount of biological waste and petri dishes I saw going out in the normal waste stream without being autoclaved or treated was astounding. They went through 4 lab managers in a year. These are labs being overseen by PhD Professors who didn't notice or didn't care.
DIYBio isn't the enemy. Everyone I've ever worked with from this forum has been EXTRA careful to go above and beyond to be safe because we know we're under more scrutiny than others. All it takes is one mishap to give the whole movement a bad name.
On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 10:03 AM Andreas "Mega" Stuermer <andreas.t.stuermer@gmail.com> wrote:
You do you.--It may make sense in your head, but for what it's worth I can assure you that ending DIYbio won't make anything safer. On the contrary, there are DIY bio people working on phage therapy and discovery of new antibiotics. Blocking them, you'd make te world LESS safer, not more.If you have ever worked with DNA, you'd know how unstable it is outside a buffer. Just saliva can destroy it. All organisms in nature produce DNAses to protect themselves from invading DNA. The tube is usually autoclaved or bleached and then burnt in the trash burning facility. DNA doesn't survive that.Then we've got governements who may have bioweapons programs. The may actually use dangerous sequences from pathogens.And, sounding like a broken record:If you compare the giant amount of mutations, horizontal gene transfer and viruses on this planet... The concern about synthetic DNA is ridiculous, and any independent scientist or institution will tell you so. Even the European EPA says so (although the politicians keep jst ignoring their scientific expertise on this matter)Btw, his title is the wrong thing. Biosafety means protection against accidents, biosecurity means some malicious intent. What you described is accidents from synthetic DNA which would fall under Biosafety. When you're talking to experts, make sure not to confuse those two or it's embarassing.
On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 3:50:07 PM UTC+2, John Griessen wrote:On 6/11/19 5:59 AM, Matt Endrizzi wrote:
> my goal is ultimately to curb or end DIY Bio
Oh, really?
Thank you for sharing that.
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