Re: [DIYbio] Streaming platform for science

Thanks, Dan.

Dakota, I see what you're saying, but my PI specifically encouraged this. He has no plans to patent, and our field is more about working together than it is stealing ideas. Maybe we're just an exception though!

On Sat, Aug 17, 2024 at 12:39 PM Dakota Hamill <dkotes@gmail.com> wrote:

Always thought streaming science would be cool.  Then reality sets in.  That would probably kill any chance to patent or publish something.  Then your PI doesn't get a grant, then the University sues you, then you get fired.  

I'm being pessimistic but based on things I've seen and experienced, it's probably not far off.  

Someone's paying you to do that research presumably if you're at a University, and you're giving the results away for free and disclosing it to the public.  

I'm not saying that's the way it should be, but seems how it is. 

Jove is cool but paywalled.  

There used to be another more open video protocol website I forget the name of.  I thought it was like petri.com or experiment.com or labrat or bench something.  

On Sat, Aug 17, 2024, 11:47 AM Dan Kolis <dankolis@gmail.com> wrote:

Making real life science new knowledge shareable is really difficult. The amusing two steps done currently, are just morning kisses of blowing in the mirror of self adoration, really. This is pathetic, but its also important to realise really sharing heavy duty facts, newish systems and supporting ideas, S/W, Data on and on it goes is generally more labor and time then most research line items.

What are those sad two steps ?

1) Incoherent Github with almost no worked examples. No real enabling stuffola, whatsoever. 

2) Fat database and web browser program. One is unusable due to no metadata, the other just falls apart after a couple months.

Did I mention a snazzy name for whatever it isn't ?

Oh, that's 3 things, sorry.

Can this be improved ? Well, yes but its a field of low expectations here. I mean, downloading a massive TAR or ZIP file and poking at it for 1/2 hour, is very close to a worthless, but not entirely,. "Something in here might do something !", is about all the end user gets. Watching the alleged support s/w fall apart is pretty sad, too. 

 Low expectations ! That's the firster activation code here ? Maybe....

Face it entirely too: George Church says only a company to try each thing has the pull to matter.  So then the science urge is turned into greasy unfulfilled promises and the counting of unhatched chickens for the bean counters.

"Did you boys get paid anything, by anybody, this week ?" is the sudden, in your face every day question, not whether it really works at all; ( phooey on that noise ).


Regs

Daniel B. Kolis; 17Aug2024

 

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