Re: [DIYbio] Counter Culture Labs + BioCurious do iGEM: Real Vegan Cheese!

Why not just do our thing, no patents, and candidly answer any questions about the technology that come to us? So far, that's been Muufri's strategy for dealing with this IP nonsense. 

Maybe I'm naive, but it seems simple enough to make everyone happy..

Ryan Pandya
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On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Ryan Pandya <ryan.pandya@gmail.com> wrote:
This dilemma is exactly what Muufri's having trouble mulling over. We're entirely supportive of open science, but we have to admit that it is a lower priority, for us, than getting vegan dairy out on the market. At the end of the day, disincentivized high schoolers matter less to us than exploited animals.

If it has to be one or the other, we choose vegan dairy over open science. And the thing is, it's still not clear to me that the best strategy for wide-scale adoption of Muufri/Real Vegan Cheese/Etc is compatible with open-science ideals. 

Let me be clear - I don't doubt that it can be done, but Perumal, Isha, and I don't know enough to strategize at that level. Ultimately, you folks are a LOT more knowledgeable (and passionate) about the IP issue than we are. 

Again, we're happy to discuss this and we'd consider collaborating and sharing our data, but so far we've been hitting a brick wall with you guys...



On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd@gmail.com> wrote:
Alternatively, if our goal really is to get as many people as possible to eat vegan cheese as soon as possible, then we should just patent the heck out of it, show that it can be done cheaper than from cow's milk, and then sell all the rights to Kraft.

Sad, but probably true...

Patrik

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