Re: [DIYbio] Counter Culture Labs + BioCurious do iGEM: Real Vegan Cheese!

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> Again, we're happy to discuss this and we'd consider collaborating and
> sharing our data, but so far we've been hitting a brick wall with you
> guys...

Which surprised me, frankly, though I can see where Marc was coming from
and relayed that impression on this end. As long as Muufri would
*consider* patenting, why would an open source team consider giving any
support or collaboration?

Of course, now we have the CounterCulture team *committing* to patent,
so it's a surprise reversal! Sudden Muufri are the more open team.

Can't you guys just decide on a strategy and either co-patent-abandon or
just get on with it? :)

On 04/07/14 11:03, Ryan Pandya wrote:
> This dilemma is exactly what Muufri's having trouble mulling over. We're
> entirely supportive of open science, but we have to admit that it is a
> lower priority, for us, than getting vegan dairy out on the market. At the
> end of the day, disincentivized high schoolers matter less to us than
> exploited animals.
>
> If it has to be one or the other, we choose vegan dairy over open science.
> And the thing is, it's still not clear to me that the best strategy for
> wide-scale adoption of Muufri/Real Vegan Cheese/Etc is compatible with
> open-science ideals.
>
> Let me be clear - I don't doubt that it can be done, but Perumal, Isha, and
> I don't know enough to strategize at that level. Ultimately, you folks are
> a LOT more knowledgeable (and passionate) about the IP issue than we are.
>
> Again, we're happy to discuss this and we'd consider collaborating and
> sharing our data, but so far we've been hitting a brick wall with you
> guys...
>
> *Ryan Pandya*
> +1 (203) 848-8633
> ryan@ryanpandya.com
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Alternatively, if our goal really is to get as many people as possible to
>> eat vegan cheese as soon as possible, then we should just patent the heck
>> out of it, show that it can be done cheaper than from cow's milk, and then
>> sell all the rights to Kraft.
>>
>> Sad, but probably true...
>>
>> Patrik
>>
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