Re: [DIYbio] Opentrons OT-2 release

Last time I talked to one of the devs, they would like to get an OT port once they're more widespread. It's not here yet. 

And yep, that sounds about right for copyright situation. I'd rather write my own software and own it under MIT.

Koeng

On Friday, June 29, 2018 at 2:25:54 PM UTC-7, Cathal Garvey wrote:
It appears that Antha itself is still FLOSS and gratis: https://github.com/antha-lang/antha

However, perhaps this GUI you mention is not FLOSS, and it's possible that they are not releasing device drivers. Because they are the copyright holders of Antha, they can do that even though for someone else it would be a GPL violation. :/

I'd still expect the OpenTrons Antha drivers to be open though, because it's OpenTrons.

On 29 June 2018 16:30:45 GMT+01:00, Koeng <koen...@gmail.com> wrote:
(actually, if I remember correctly, you have to purchase actual Antha for support of running on the bots? It seemed like it was good for labs doing high throughput work but didn't want to have to think about running robots and developing code)


On Friday, June 29, 2018 at 8:29:08 AM UTC-7, Koeng wrote:
Antha is also pretty pricey per year, I think 4 times an OT cost?

That said, I met with some developers of Antha and I really like it. Their GUI is really great for management and wonderful for multifactorial optimization. Their data from optimizing GoldenGates was very impressive. It's a piece of proprietary software I would consider purchasing, if I had the money to, since mainly what you're paying for is support and the user interface supporting the bottom-level code. Also, yea it's not really vendor lock-in because it works across many platforms - but python is pretty hard to beat when working with libraries.

Here are some videos of our OT1s doing work with our codebase. When in "build-mode" we run about 3 at a time, cloning about 300 plasmids a day. 

OT doing GoldenGates

OT doing transformations

OT doing plating (from above)

OT doing plating (from back)
(At the end of this video, you can see how we're doing the serial dilutions. Extremely important to note: you want to slowly dispense the liquid above the plate, creating a small droplet that sticks to the sides of the tip, and THEN move down to drop the droplets while stabbing the agar a little. If you do it when you're already down in the agar, you're gonna have a bad time)

Koeng



On Wednesday, June 27, 2018 at 11:30:34 PM UTC-7, Michael Crone wrote:
Antha removes the vendor "lock-in" that you are talking about and allows for cross-platform workflows (which becomes useful when you are working in a DNA foundry environment). And when you already have a $30 000 robot it's difficult to justify to your PI to buy a $10 000 one... especially when that robot is already fully equipped with all of the accessories.

I completely agree though that the opentrons is great for every day work in the lab and its programmability makes it very attractive.

On Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:02:22 UTC+2, John Griessen wrote:
On 06/27/2018 02:42 AM, Michael Crone wrote:
> We have a Felix in my lab and I'd like to get it up and running because it is easier to justify using that than buying the cheaper opentrons.

What makes it easier to justify?  After Koeng's email on how wonderful programmability without vendor lock-in is, I don't get you.


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Re: [DIYbio] Opentrons OT-2 release

It appears that Antha itself is still FLOSS and gratis: https://github.com/antha-lang/antha

However, perhaps this GUI you mention is not FLOSS, and it's possible that they are not releasing device drivers. Because they are the copyright holders of Antha, they can do that even though for someone else it would be a GPL violation. :/

I'd still expect the OpenTrons Antha drivers to be open though, because it's OpenTrons.

On 29 June 2018 16:30:45 GMT+01:00, Koeng <koeng101@gmail.com> wrote:
(actually, if I remember correctly, you have to purchase actual Antha for support of running on the bots? It seemed like it was good for labs doing high throughput work but didn't want to have to think about running robots and developing code)


On Friday, June 29, 2018 at 8:29:08 AM UTC-7, Koeng wrote:
Antha is also pretty pricey per year, I think 4 times an OT cost?

That said, I met with some developers of Antha and I really like it. Their GUI is really great for management and wonderful for multifactorial optimization. Their data from optimizing GoldenGates was very impressive. It's a piece of proprietary software I would consider purchasing, if I had the money to, since mainly what you're paying for is support and the user interface supporting the bottom-level code. Also, yea it's not really vendor lock-in because it works across many platforms - but python is pretty hard to beat when working with libraries.

Here are some videos of our OT1s doing work with our codebase. When in "build-mode" we run about 3 at a time, cloning about 300 plasmids a day. 

OT doing GoldenGates

OT doing transformations

OT doing plating (from above)

OT doing plating (from back)
(At the end of this video, you can see how we're doing the serial dilutions. Extremely important to note: you want to slowly dispense the liquid above the plate, creating a small droplet that sticks to the sides of the tip, and THEN move down to drop the droplets while stabbing the agar a little. If you do it when you're already down in the agar, you're gonna have a bad time)

Koeng



On Wednesday, June 27, 2018 at 11:30:34 PM UTC-7, Michael Crone wrote:
Antha removes the vendor "lock-in" that you are talking about and allows for cross-platform workflows (which becomes useful when you are working in a DNA foundry environment). And when you already have a $30 000 robot it's difficult to justify to your PI to buy a $10 000 one... especially when that robot is already fully equipped with all of the accessories.

I completely agree though that the opentrons is great for every day work in the lab and its programmability makes it very attractive.

On Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:02:22 UTC+2, John Griessen wrote:
On 06/27/2018 02:42 AM, Michael Crone wrote:
> We have a Felix in my lab and I'd like to get it up and running because it is easier to justify using that than buying the cheaper opentrons.

What makes it easier to justify?  After Koeng's email on how wonderful programmability without vendor lock-in is, I don't get you.


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Re: [DIYbio] Opentrons OT-2 release

(actually, if I remember correctly, you have to purchase actual Antha for support of running on the bots? It seemed like it was good for labs doing high throughput work but didn't want to have to think about running robots and developing code)


On Friday, June 29, 2018 at 8:29:08 AM UTC-7, Koeng wrote:
Antha is also pretty pricey per year, I think 4 times an OT cost?

That said, I met with some developers of Antha and I really like it. Their GUI is really great for management and wonderful for multifactorial optimization. Their data from optimizing GoldenGates was very impressive. It's a piece of proprietary software I would consider purchasing, if I had the money to, since mainly what you're paying for is support and the user interface supporting the bottom-level code. Also, yea it's not really vendor lock-in because it works across many platforms - but python is pretty hard to beat when working with libraries.

Here are some videos of our OT1s doing work with our codebase. When in "build-mode" we run about 3 at a time, cloning about 300 plasmids a day. 

OT doing GoldenGates

OT doing transformations

OT doing plating (from above)

OT doing plating (from back)
(At the end of this video, you can see how we're doing the serial dilutions. Extremely important to note: you want to slowly dispense the liquid above the plate, creating a small droplet that sticks to the sides of the tip, and THEN move down to drop the droplets while stabbing the agar a little. If you do it when you're already down in the agar, you're gonna have a bad time)

Koeng



On Wednesday, June 27, 2018 at 11:30:34 PM UTC-7, Michael Crone wrote:
Antha removes the vendor "lock-in" that you are talking about and allows for cross-platform workflows (which becomes useful when you are working in a DNA foundry environment). And when you already have a $30 000 robot it's difficult to justify to your PI to buy a $10 000 one... especially when that robot is already fully equipped with all of the accessories.

I completely agree though that the opentrons is great for every day work in the lab and its programmability makes it very attractive.

On Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:02:22 UTC+2, John Griessen wrote:
On 06/27/2018 02:42 AM, Michael Crone wrote:
> We have a Felix in my lab and I'd like to get it up and running because it is easier to justify using that than buying the cheaper opentrons.

What makes it easier to justify?  After Koeng's email on how wonderful programmability without vendor lock-in is, I don't get you.

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Re: [DIYbio] Opentrons OT-2 release

Antha is also pretty pricey per year, I think 4 times an OT cost?

That said, I met with some developers of Antha and I really like it. Their GUI is really great for management and wonderful for multifactorial optimization. Their data from optimizing GoldenGates was very impressive. It's a piece of proprietary software I would consider purchasing, if I had the money to, since mainly what you're paying for is support and the user interface supporting the bottom-level code. Also, yea it's not really vendor lock-in because it works across many platforms - but python is pretty hard to beat when working with libraries.

Here are some videos of our OT1s doing work with our codebase. When in "build-mode" we run about 3 at a time, cloning about 300 plasmids a day. 

OT doing GoldenGates
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_tEMNG0I3U

OT doing transformations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQA4v-9h0W8

OT doing plating (from above)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxHn1avxR-4

OT doing plating (from back)
https://youtu.be/xXuF4v3vZ78?t=11s
(At the end of this video, you can see how we're doing the serial dilutions. Extremely important to note: you want to slowly dispense the liquid above the plate, creating a small droplet that sticks to the sides of the tip, and THEN move down to drop the droplets while stabbing the agar a little. If you do it when you're already down in the agar, you're gonna have a bad time)

Koeng



On Wednesday, June 27, 2018 at 11:30:34 PM UTC-7, Michael Crone wrote:
Antha removes the vendor "lock-in" that you are talking about and allows for cross-platform workflows (which becomes useful when you are working in a DNA foundry environment). And when you already have a $30 000 robot it's difficult to justify to your PI to buy a $10 000 one... especially when that robot is already fully equipped with all of the accessories.

I completely agree though that the opentrons is great for every day work in the lab and its programmability makes it very attractive.

On Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:02:22 UTC+2, John Griessen wrote:
On 06/27/2018 02:42 AM, Michael Crone wrote:
> We have a Felix in my lab and I'd like to get it up and running because it is easier to justify using that than buying the cheaper opentrons.

What makes it easier to justify?  After Koeng's email on how wonderful programmability without vendor lock-in is, I don't get you.

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[DIYbio] Non-toxic DNA extraction from plants for DNA sequencing?

Hi all,

we're doing a Hands-On DNA sequencing workshop this summer, and I've
been looking around for a good DNA extraction protocol, which is going
meh. So I thought I'd ask here for input. Parameters:

* Should work well on plants. We're a bit flexible here - our current
candidates are Malus x domestica or Fragarius vesca, but we could switch
to another agriculturally important plant for which we can find old
cultivars. This includes tomatoes, cucumbers, other fruit trees...
* Must be relatively non-toxic. No chloroform, nothing that needs a fume
hood.
* Extracted material must be suitable for DNA sequencing (ONT MinION
sequencing to be precise)

We're open to using a kit if need be.

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

Cheers,
Lisa

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[DIYbio] Re: NPR Correspondent Seeks DIY CRISPR

A lot of people with CRISPR sitting in their basement these days?

On Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 1:28:10 PM UTC-7, Rob Stein wrote:

I'm a correspondent at NPR (National Public Radio). I'm working on a story about people using CRISPR for biohacking. If you're using CRISPR at home and interested in participating in a story, please contact me. 
Thanks!
Rob Stein
Science Correspondent/Senior Editor
National Public Radio (NPR)
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[DIYbio] Monitoring synthetic biology efforts

Spotting Suspect Sequences

New synthetic biology tools could make piecing together a deadly pathogen easier than before, but there are watchdogs hoping to prevent that from happening, Bloomberg reports.

Last year, a Canadian team published its work recreating the horsepox virus — a relative of smallpox — using DNA fragments they ordered online. This, it adds, caused a backlash and raised concerns that a similar approach could be used to recreate smallpox. In addition, Bloomberg notes that as the field advances, it will become easier for less-equipped labs to do such tinkering.

It reports, though, that the Intelligence Advanced Research Projects Activity in the US is working with Battelle Memorial Institute, Harvard University, Virginia Tech, and Ginkgo Bioworks to develop algorithms to spot orders for genetic sequences that could be put to nefarious use. Battelle, for instance, received an award earlier this year to develop software to predict the function of a DNA fragment to gauge its threat level.

Asha George, executive director of the Blue Ribbon Study Panel on Biodefense, tells Bloomberg that IARPA's focus on synthetic biology is encouraging. "The amount of effort we're still putting toward the nuclear threat, the chemical threat, the incendiary threat is so much more than the United States government — or any government, for that matter — is putting towards bio-preparedness, that's just a fact," she says. "The biological threats do not receive the same level of attention as other threats."


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Re: [DIYbio] Opentrons OT-2 release

Antha is nice. I haven't even dabbled, but I got the tour once from the developers (who are great people, by the way). Last time I saw it, it was very similar to a declarative DSL of Go, and could be extended easily enough using Go. This means that for coders who want to add device support they can use low-level manual memory management, but for coders who want to add features for defining experiments etc., they don't need to worry about memory management as Go handles that using a GC. The Go syntax is relatively easy to learn, also; it's not Python, but it's minimal enough to make up for it.

The overarching idea with Antha was not only to be a driver software suite for hardware, but to be an experimental definition language. So you could say "assuming a device to do operations X,Y,Z, conduct an experiment with an 80:20 split of tests to controls that does X then Y then Z".. and in theory you wouldn't even need to define specific volumes or plate formats at time-of-writing, you'd define what you had available for each device at runtime and Antha would figure out how to string that together.

The developers, Synthace, use it in production and last time I heard they were doing great. So Antha ought to be well-supported for a long time hence, and it's GPL licensed so it can outlive them in the worst case.

June 28, 2018 4:00 PM, "John Griessen" <john@industromatic.com> wrote:

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>> Antha removes the vendor "lock-in" that you are talking about and allows for cross-platform
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> OK. I'll read about antha.
> Maybe it will trigger me to develop an inexpensive microplate conveyor system and "forklift arm"
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Re: [DIYbio] Opentrons OT-2 release

On 06/28/2018 01:30 AM, Michael Crone wrote:
> Antha removes the vendor "lock-in" that you are talking about and allows for cross-platform workflows

OK. I'll read about antha.
Maybe it will trigger me to develop an inexpensive microplate conveyor system and "forklift arm" microplate handler.

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Re: [DIYbio] Re: RFI: Biochip screening analyers

I'm with you on microbes communicating with chemicals!  Gary Strobel did a lot of work on endophytic fungi and also some volatile compounds that have bio-active properties (and I'm sure signalling in some instances).


You'll need to use sci-hub.tw to get past paywall.

This is an AMAZING Documentary I saw 8 years ago and it got me hooked into natural products from microbes/fungi forever.


And there is of course the cordyceps fungi that use chemicals to control their hosts for better spore disperal.


Best of luck with endeavors!

On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 1:51 AM, Chris Caston <chris.caston@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Dakota,

I lived in a water damaged rental house between October 2016 and April 2018. 
I ended up with looking very sickly and experienced psychological issues as well as loss of employment and employment prospects.
I believe that "haunted houses" e.g. dark, damp houses are actually mould houses but we didn't know about mould back in those times so we attributes the strange goings-on with evil spirits. Even today mould is considered quite supernatural and quickly dismissed by most doctors.

Additionally I believe I have discovered that fungi communicates with a chemical lexicon that works like a cross between language used by the heptapods in "The Arrival" and hypnotic commands. These MVOCs (microbial organic compounds)  form a chemical lexicon that effects humans and animals on a subconscious level and this has been conserved across evolution. This can cause anything from changes in social and social-sexual behavior to more serious mental health changes.

I would love to be able to do more research but for now I am aiming on helping people find and get rid of mould in their rental properties and workplaces as it seems that most people (such as property managers and line managers) have little science knowledge and or consider mould harmless. I don't believe this is the case.

best regards,

Christopher Caston   

On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 7:57 AM, Dakota Hamill <dkotes@gmail.com> wrote:
Here is a product I've seen in home depot.


It is really just a Petri dish.  Ive known a few people who are super paranoid about mould and have paid hundreds of dollars for testing and believe all their health problems are from aflatoxins from black mould while they're on about 10 different pharmaceuticals for varying ailments and don't understand why their doctor won't get their insurance to pay for testing.

Where there is paranoia there is a market! 

Not saying some houses aren't riddled with it but...

What's your end goal with your research?


On Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 7:37 PM Chris Caston <chris.caston@gmail.com> wrote:
That's very useful thank you. I'll add that to our knowledge-base. 

On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 9:49 PM, Dakota Hamill <dkotes@gmail.com> wrote:
A Petri dish of potato dextrose agar open for an hour will tell you if you have mould as well and it'll cost a quarter. 

On Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 9:47 AM Chris Caston <chris.caston@gmail.com> wrote:
I sent them a contact message with the following text:

OK don't excited because I don't have any money but I am seriously interested in finding out how much the Evidence Investigator – Biochip Immunoanalyser would cost. My main interest is mycotoxin testing. I have started a biological security volunteer taskforce to help people that suspect there may be mould in the home or workplace. I guess if you let me know a rough figure that might help organise for a local lab to purchase the device. Thank you.

On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 4:05 PM, Chris Caston <chris.caston@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

Does anyone here have any information about Biochip based screening analyzers? 

For example the Randox Investigator:


How much would one of these babies cost?

I'm not in a position to buy one myself hence I haven't contacted the company. If anyone has perhaps a ballpark figure to the nearest 10k or something that would be great.

Also if there are any other devices similar to this you might suggest.

I'm guessing it would be pretty much near impossible to just build something DIY but if anyone has attempted this please let me know.

best regards,

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Re: [DIYbio] Opentrons OT-2 release

Antha removes the vendor "lock-in" that you are talking about and allows for cross-platform workflows (which becomes useful when you are working in a DNA foundry environment). And when you already have a $30 000 robot it's difficult to justify to your PI to buy a $10 000 one... especially when that robot is already fully equipped with all of the accessories.

I completely agree though that the opentrons is great for every day work in the lab and its programmability makes it very attractive.

On Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:02:22 UTC+2, John Griessen wrote:
On 06/27/2018 02:42 AM, Michael Crone wrote:
> We have a Felix in my lab and I'd like to get it up and running because it is easier to justify using that than buying the cheaper opentrons.

What makes it easier to justify?  After Koeng's email on how wonderful programmability without vendor lock-in is, I don't get you.

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Re: [DIYbio] Re: RFI: Biochip screening analyers

Hi Dakota,

I lived in a water damaged rental house between October 2016 and April 2018. 
I ended up with looking very sickly and experienced psychological issues as well as loss of employment and employment prospects.
I believe that "haunted houses" e.g. dark, damp houses are actually mould houses but we didn't know about mould back in those times so we attributes the strange goings-on with evil spirits. Even today mould is considered quite supernatural and quickly dismissed by most doctors.

Additionally I believe I have discovered that fungi communicates with a chemical lexicon that works like a cross between language used by the heptapods in "The Arrival" and hypnotic commands. These MVOCs (microbial organic compounds)  form a chemical lexicon that effects humans and animals on a subconscious level and this has been conserved across evolution. This can cause anything from changes in social and social-sexual behavior to more serious mental health changes.

I would love to be able to do more research but for now I am aiming on helping people find and get rid of mould in their rental properties and workplaces as it seems that most people (such as property managers and line managers) have little science knowledge and or consider mould harmless. I don't believe this is the case.

best regards,

Christopher Caston   

On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 7:57 AM, Dakota Hamill <dkotes@gmail.com> wrote:
Here is a product I've seen in home depot.


It is really just a Petri dish.  Ive known a few people who are super paranoid about mould and have paid hundreds of dollars for testing and believe all their health problems are from aflatoxins from black mould while they're on about 10 different pharmaceuticals for varying ailments and don't understand why their doctor won't get their insurance to pay for testing.

Where there is paranoia there is a market! 

Not saying some houses aren't riddled with it but...

What's your end goal with your research?


On Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 7:37 PM Chris Caston <chris.caston@gmail.com> wrote:
That's very useful thank you. I'll add that to our knowledge-base. 

On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 9:49 PM, Dakota Hamill <dkotes@gmail.com> wrote:
A Petri dish of potato dextrose agar open for an hour will tell you if you have mould as well and it'll cost a quarter. 

On Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 9:47 AM Chris Caston <chris.caston@gmail.com> wrote:
I sent them a contact message with the following text:

OK don't excited because I don't have any money but I am seriously interested in finding out how much the Evidence Investigator – Biochip Immunoanalyser would cost. My main interest is mycotoxin testing. I have started a biological security volunteer taskforce to help people that suspect there may be mould in the home or workplace. I guess if you let me know a rough figure that might help organise for a local lab to purchase the device. Thank you.

On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 4:05 PM, Chris Caston <chris.caston@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

Does anyone here have any information about Biochip based screening analyzers? 

For example the Randox Investigator:


How much would one of these babies cost?

I'm not in a position to buy one myself hence I haven't contacted the company. If anyone has perhaps a ballpark figure to the nearest 10k or something that would be great.

Also if there are any other devices similar to this you might suggest.

I'm guessing it would be pretty much near impossible to just build something DIY but if anyone has attempted this please let me know.

best regards,

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Re: [DIYbio] Re: RFI: Biochip screening analyers

Here is a product I've seen in home depot.


It is really just a Petri dish.  Ive known a few people who are super paranoid about mould and have paid hundreds of dollars for testing and believe all their health problems are from aflatoxins from black mould while they're on about 10 different pharmaceuticals for varying ailments and don't understand why their doctor won't get their insurance to pay for testing.

Where there is paranoia there is a market! 

Not saying some houses aren't riddled with it but...

What's your end goal with your research?


On Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 7:37 PM Chris Caston <chris.caston@gmail.com> wrote:
That's very useful thank you. I'll add that to our knowledge-base. 

On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 9:49 PM, Dakota Hamill <dkotes@gmail.com> wrote:
A Petri dish of potato dextrose agar open for an hour will tell you if you have mould as well and it'll cost a quarter. 

On Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 9:47 AM Chris Caston <chris.caston@gmail.com> wrote:
I sent them a contact message with the following text:

OK don't excited because I don't have any money but I am seriously interested in finding out how much the Evidence Investigator – Biochip Immunoanalyser would cost. My main interest is mycotoxin testing. I have started a biological security volunteer taskforce to help people that suspect there may be mould in the home or workplace. I guess if you let me know a rough figure that might help organise for a local lab to purchase the device. Thank you.

On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 4:05 PM, Chris Caston <chris.caston@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

Does anyone here have any information about Biochip based screening analyzers? 

For example the Randox Investigator:


How much would one of these babies cost?

I'm not in a position to buy one myself hence I haven't contacted the company. If anyone has perhaps a ballpark figure to the nearest 10k or something that would be great.

Also if there are any other devices similar to this you might suggest.

I'm guessing it would be pretty much near impossible to just build something DIY but if anyone has attempted this please let me know.

best regards,

Christopher Caston



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Re: [DIYbio] Re: RFI: Biochip screening analyers

That's very useful thank you. I'll add that to our knowledge-base. 

On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 9:49 PM, Dakota Hamill <dkotes@gmail.com> wrote:
A Petri dish of potato dextrose agar open for an hour will tell you if you have mould as well and it'll cost a quarter. 

On Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 9:47 AM Chris Caston <chris.caston@gmail.com> wrote:
I sent them a contact message with the following text:

OK don't excited because I don't have any money but I am seriously interested in finding out how much the Evidence Investigator – Biochip Immunoanalyser would cost. My main interest is mycotoxin testing. I have started a biological security volunteer taskforce to help people that suspect there may be mould in the home or workplace. I guess if you let me know a rough figure that might help organise for a local lab to purchase the device. Thank you.

On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 4:05 PM, Chris Caston <chris.caston@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

Does anyone here have any information about Biochip based screening analyzers? 

For example the Randox Investigator:


How much would one of these babies cost?

I'm not in a position to buy one myself hence I haven't contacted the company. If anyone has perhaps a ballpark figure to the nearest 10k or something that would be great.

Also if there are any other devices similar to this you might suggest.

I'm guessing it would be pretty much near impossible to just build something DIY but if anyone has attempted this please let me know.

best regards,

Christopher Caston



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Re: [DIYbio] Opentrons OT-2 release

On 06/27/2018 02:42 AM, Michael Crone wrote:
> We have a Felix in my lab and I'd like to get it up and running because it is easier to justify using that than buying the cheaper opentrons.

What makes it easier to justify? After Koeng's email on how wonderful programmability without vendor lock-in is, I don't get you.

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