Re: [DIYbio] Therapeutic plasma replacement, infusion and exchange

The effects of rapamycin are... complex.  Its primary use (right now) is as an immune system suppressant for transplant patients.  Anyone using it for anti-aging needs to be very careful about bacterial infections.  It should go without saying that this is not medical advice.

I don't think the mechanism by which rapamycin combats the effects of aging are understood.  Of course, aging itself is not well understood.

Here are some papers:

Rapamycin for longevity: opinion article

Rapamycin, the only drug that has been consistently demonstrated to increase mammalian longevity. An update

Cheers


On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 12:24 PM Dakota Hamill <dkotes@gmail.com> wrote:
ooo I love the story of Rapamycin and always start any talks around natural products with it.  In 1972 a group from Wyeth Brazil went to Easter Island and took soil samples from the edge of the extinct volcano there.  Originally Streptomyces hygroscopicus had a bio-active being pursued for anti-fungal properties.  Turns out it was an amazing immune suppressant (I do not know how this was tested).  Rapamycin, named after the native people's name for the island, Rapa Nui, is still used today to coat heart stents and after organ transplantation.  

The molecule has 15 chiral centers, and if you do 2^15 there are 32,768 unique isomers.   And a little microbe, eating decaying organic matter, with some oxygen, beautifully synthesizes an amazingly active molecule which is a multi billion dollar life saving medicine. 

I've never heard about its anti aging uses, would like to hear more. 

On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 12:49 PM Daniel C. <dcrookston@gmail.com> wrote:
I am very interested in this list not being spammed with advertisements for quackery.

I especially like how you don't talk about rapamycin, the most effective anti-aging drug currently available, which is a generic medication and therefore not profitable.

On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 7:41 AM jadams grg.org <jadams@grg.org> wrote:

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My name's Johnny Adams. 

 

I recently moved to Florida to be active in two initiatives that I believe have the greatest potential for biological age management and reversal:

  • Yamanaka/OSK gene therapy to reset the epigenome.  A therapy is a few years away.
  • A plasma project involving therapeutic plasma replacement, infusion and exchange

 

It will initially be available in Florida, then in other parts of the country.

 

More information:

https://www.aginginterventionfoundation.org/JohnnyAdamsPlasmaProjectSummary.pdf

 

Please contact me if you have any interest.

 

Johnny

1-949-922-9786 cell

JAdams@AgingInterventionFoundation.org

 

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Re: [DIYbio] Therapeutic plasma replacement, infusion and exchange

ooo I love the story of Rapamycin and always start any talks around natural products with it.  In 1972 a group from Wyeth Brazil went to Easter Island and took soil samples from the edge of the extinct volcano there.  Originally Streptomyces hygroscopicus had a bio-active being pursued for anti-fungal properties.  Turns out it was an amazing immune suppressant (I do not know how this was tested).  Rapamycin, named after the native people's name for the island, Rapa Nui, is still used today to coat heart stents and after organ transplantation.  

The molecule has 15 chiral centers, and if you do 2^15 there are 32,768 unique isomers.   And a little microbe, eating decaying organic matter, with some oxygen, beautifully synthesizes an amazingly active molecule which is a multi billion dollar life saving medicine. 

I've never heard about its anti aging uses, would like to hear more. 

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I am very interested in this list not being spammed with advertisements for quackery.

I especially like how you don't talk about rapamycin, the most effective anti-aging drug currently available, which is a generic medication and therefore not profitable.

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Members,

 

My name's Johnny Adams. 

 

I recently moved to Florida to be active in two initiatives that I believe have the greatest potential for biological age management and reversal:

  • Yamanaka/OSK gene therapy to reset the epigenome.  A therapy is a few years away.
  • A plasma project involving therapeutic plasma replacement, infusion and exchange

 

It will initially be available in Florida, then in other parts of the country.

 

More information:

https://www.aginginterventionfoundation.org/JohnnyAdamsPlasmaProjectSummary.pdf

 

Please contact me if you have any interest.

 

Johnny

1-949-922-9786 cell

JAdams@AgingInterventionFoundation.org

 

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Re: [DIYbio] Therapeutic plasma replacement, infusion and exchange

I am very interested in this list not being spammed with advertisements for quackery.

I especially like how you don't talk about rapamycin, the most effective anti-aging drug currently available, which is a generic medication and therefore not profitable.

On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 7:41 AM jadams grg.org <jadams@grg.org> wrote:

Members,

 

My name's Johnny Adams. 

 

I recently moved to Florida to be active in two initiatives that I believe have the greatest potential for biological age management and reversal:

  • Yamanaka/OSK gene therapy to reset the epigenome.  A therapy is a few years away.
  • A plasma project involving therapeutic plasma replacement, infusion and exchange

 

It will initially be available in Florida, then in other parts of the country.

 

More information:

https://www.aginginterventionfoundation.org/JohnnyAdamsPlasmaProjectSummary.pdf

 

Please contact me if you have any interest.

 

Johnny

1-949-922-9786 cell

JAdams@AgingInterventionFoundation.org

 

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Re: [DIYbio] Re: DIYbio - Week 3 of Jan 2024 notes poked up to this thing

Thanks Andrew! Didn't know about the discord. That seems helpful!

On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 4:53 AM Andrew Gray <andrew.gray.d2@gmail.com> wrote:
Hans, there are a few out there. r/DIYbio (stay away from r/biohackers, it's a bit crazy) the fb group biohacking & genetic engineering, discord SciHouse (which hosted al #DIYbio on twitter. 


On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 3:38:23 AM UTC+11 Hans Wilms wrote:
Does anyone know where these DIY groups are in the  Facebook, Reddit, Discords space? I feel like DIYbio has mostly died off compared to what it was in 2010s, but I'm hoping I'm just out of touch.

On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 11:01 AM Dan Kolis <dank...@gmail.com> wrote:



The VC world is plenty happy to convert nutrients to H20 + Urea on a huge scale. I mean, 'hunt the unicorn', then wait for layoffs due to nothing usable seems like a common plan.

 Again in the investment lingo; it is just 'widows and orphans' or do institutions fund endless go nowhere biotech, or what ? I don't know, I have tried to find out, and I am a little interested.

Like here in Toronto, the teachers Union has thrown in on Quantum computers FOR LIFE SCI, and the Fed and province peeled off millions for little analog computers that do exactly nothing, all blessed with urges based on Stat trek. I mean, That twisty thing on the screen, is that REAL DNA ?". How hard could this be ? Only took 45 seconds for Warf and some hottie to make a cure via an air blown med. Works first time perfectly, before the next commercial !

Ok. DIY or institutional, non-profit or whatever. Doing what took mother nature 100K years to do before a patent runs out, is not too easy.

Scale up a hobby, scale down a unicorn. Not so easy. When one atom in a molecule changes hugely what happens, its pretty tough stuff to tame.

regs,
Daniel B. Kolis





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[DIYbio] Therapeutic plasma replacement, infusion and exchange

Members,

 

My name's Johnny Adams. 

 

I recently moved to Florida to be active in two initiatives that I believe have the greatest potential for biological age management and reversal:

  • Yamanaka/OSK gene therapy to reset the epigenome.  A therapy is a few years away.
  • A plasma project involving therapeutic plasma replacement, infusion and exchange

 

It will initially be available in Florida, then in other parts of the country.

 

More information:

https://www.aginginterventionfoundation.org/JohnnyAdamsPlasmaProjectSummary.pdf

 

Please contact me if you have any interest.

 

Johnny

1-949-922-9786 cell

JAdams@AgingInterventionFoundation.org

 

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Re: [DIYbio] Re: DIYbio - Week 3 of Jan 2024 notes poked up to this thing

Hans, there are a few out there. r/DIYbio (stay away from r/biohackers, it's a bit crazy) the fb group biohacking & genetic engineering, discord SciHouse (which hosted al #DIYbio on twitter. 


On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 3:38:23 AM UTC+11 Hans Wilms wrote:
Does anyone know where these DIY groups are in the  Facebook, Reddit, Discords space? I feel like DIYbio has mostly died off compared to what it was in 2010s, but I'm hoping I'm just out of touch.

On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 11:01 AM Dan Kolis <dank...@gmail.com> wrote:



The VC world is plenty happy to convert nutrients to H20 + Urea on a huge scale. I mean, 'hunt the unicorn', then wait for layoffs due to nothing usable seems like a common plan.

 Again in the investment lingo; it is just 'widows and orphans' or do institutions fund endless go nowhere biotech, or what ? I don't know, I have tried to find out, and I am a little interested.

Like here in Toronto, the teachers Union has thrown in on Quantum computers FOR LIFE SCI, and the Fed and province peeled off millions for little analog computers that do exactly nothing, all blessed with urges based on Stat trek. I mean, That twisty thing on the screen, is that REAL DNA ?". How hard could this be ? Only took 45 seconds for Warf and some hottie to make a cure via an air blown med. Works first time perfectly, before the next commercial !

Ok. DIY or institutional, non-profit or whatever. Doing what took mother nature 100K years to do before a patent runs out, is not too easy.

Scale up a hobby, scale down a unicorn. Not so easy. When one atom in a molecule changes hugely what happens, its pretty tough stuff to tame.

regs,
Daniel B. Kolis





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Re: [DIYbio] Re: DIYbio - Week 3 of Jan 2024 notes poked up to this thing

Does anyone know where these DIY groups are in the  Facebook, Reddit, Discords space? I feel like DIYbio has mostly died off compared to what it was in 2010s, but I'm hoping I'm just out of touch.

On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 11:01 AM Dan Kolis <dankolis@gmail.com> wrote:



The VC world is plenty happy to convert nutrients to H20 + Urea on a huge scale. I mean, 'hunt the unicorn', then wait for layoffs due to nothing usable seems like a common plan.

 Again in the investment lingo; it is just 'widows and orphans' or do institutions fund endless go nowhere biotech, or what ? I don't know, I have tried to find out, and I am a little interested.

Like here in Toronto, the teachers Union has thrown in on Quantum computers FOR LIFE SCI, and the Fed and province peeled off millions for little analog computers that do exactly nothing, all blessed with urges based on Stat trek. I mean, That twisty thing on the screen, is that REAL DNA ?". How hard could this be ? Only took 45 seconds for Warf and some hottie to make a cure via an air blown med. Works first time perfectly, before the next commercial !

Ok. DIY or institutional, non-profit or whatever. Doing what took mother nature 100K years to do before a patent runs out, is not too easy.

Scale up a hobby, scale down a unicorn. Not so easy. When one atom in a molecule changes hugely what happens, its pretty tough stuff to tame.

regs,
Daniel B. Kolis





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[DIYbio] Re: DIYbio - Week 3 of Jan 2024 notes poked up to this thing




The VC world is plenty happy to convert nutrients to H20 + Urea on a huge scale. I mean, 'hunt the unicorn', then wait for layoffs due to nothing usable seems like a common plan.

 Again in the investment lingo; it is just 'widows and orphans' or do institutions fund endless go nowhere biotech, or what ? I don't know, I have tried to find out, and I am a little interested.

Like here in Toronto, the teachers Union has thrown in on Quantum computers FOR LIFE SCI, and the Fed and province peeled off millions for little analog computers that do exactly nothing, all blessed with urges based on Stat trek. I mean, That twisty thing on the screen, is that REAL DNA ?". How hard could this be ? Only took 45 seconds for Warf and some hottie to make a cure via an air blown med. Works first time perfectly, before the next commercial !

Ok. DIY or institutional, non-profit or whatever. Doing what took mother nature 100K years to do before a patent runs out, is not too easy.

Scale up a hobby, scale down a unicorn. Not so easy. When one atom in a molecule changes hugely what happens, its pretty tough stuff to tame.

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Daniel B. Kolis





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[DIYbio] A Numerical method mini project in APL

the greasy annoyances of R and SPSS and other kiddie class numerical methods applications has annoyed me enough to do a specific thing.


A coworker has a medium sized life science problem and I think I will throw in on it shortly.

I can easily visualize an APL tool for calculus of finite differences, in this case all Abelian integers to enum options of lists of things, that do things....

You know, its sure fun to visualize months if tinkering, esp if subsidized, but an afternoon of APL should do it...

If anybody 'out there' is interested let me know. I would have to anonymize the results.  That's fine.

Calculus of finite differences and propagation of constraints are vastly underutilized for whatever reasons... 

Fun to scrape those Peach tree dishes and makes spreadsheets: Sure. Something thinking hard about the output, is a gooder idea too....

I might flop out and do nothing, it depends on various variable variables in the people-verse. But if I do does this interest you ?

Regs,
Daniel B. Kolis

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[DIYbio] Re: DIYbio - Week 3 of Jan 2024 notes poked up to this thing

Hi all, i haven't been in this thread for a while, so apologies for the lack of contributions. In response to Dan, I think new platforms are being utilized for DIYbio-related discussions. Facebook, Reddit, Discords, I imagine there are more groups. I guess that's "decentralized" for you! Still, it's awesome to come back and see this Google group still ticking along and it was great to read all your thoughts.


I know from my perspective here in Melbourne Aus, there is a huge appetite for DIYbio in the wake of COVID due to a reduction in the number of hands-on training opportunities for students during our lockdowns.  

Love the previously mentioned, DITbio, people rarely showed up to just be on their own at our lab.

For context of what i'm going to talk about, i was inspired to help start BioQ here in Aus in 2015 (www.bioq.org.au, very much inspired by BioCurious) under a charity structure. From that lab, we saw various needs in our ecosystem and started a science equipment recycling program in 2018 (another charity), and then a biotech CoWorking space called CoLabs Aus in 2020 (finally learned and started a company/social enterprise). 

BioQ was difficult to run but the community was/is amazing. I didn't have any experience helping run a business, managing revenue, volunteers, projects, and grants, all while living on minimum wage, but i think that was/is par for the course in this space. In the end, i got enough exp doing that to help start CoLabs and learned A LOT about various fields.

There is absolutely a challenge with where VCs look at something that is coming out of shared lab spaces like a DIYbio/Community Lab and ask if the IP has been protected, does it have market fit, so on. I've been wondering about this for a while, and i'm exploring this with some IP lawyer friends. 

Is there a framework/commons that could be the best of both worlds? Support both open access and commercialization at the same time taking into account the needs of those involved? 

Generally, VCs are happy enough if they see everyone in the space has signed NDAs and consideration has been given to controlled access.




On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 6:26:51 AM UTC+11 dank...@gmail.com wrote:
Noted :
" Reading two books recently: "Open-source lab" by Joshua Pearce and
                            "Building open source hardware" by Alicia Gibb"

I read the entries to "Dead or what" pretty carefully and didn't really light up with any specific conjectures except maybe to read / get / etc the books above...

Maybe there are some good animals extinct just the right amount and aren't taken yet by Harvard ?

You would think pollution abatement might work to getting investments ? Chem companies; like BASF, etc. 

Of course, most Bio projects fail horribly. That's a pretty basic fact, there...

Regs to All,
Dan


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