Actually it lowers my expectations, because he's a patent seeker. The golden rice team have a grant from the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation for amino-fortified rice: that encourages me more.
As to the phytoestrogen thing, it's true that soy contains these but it's unclear whether they matter at all.There are many potential receptors that don't react, and those that do may be gender neutral, remembering that estrogen is an important male hormone, too (albeit in smaller amounts!).
Personally the fact that billions of people easy soy as a staple and not only don't suffer from "gender bending" but have generally improved lifelong health sells me on its safety.
Meredith: assuming you've ruled out Iron deficiency as a cause, there's an interesting chance to do some "quantified self" nutrition studies here? Get some hella-intense blood tests done for different nutrients and then do checkpoints from onset of vegan diet.
It's possible, to pull one item out of the hat, that you have reduced B12 recycling, which appears to be familial in my own family, and means I take sublingual b12 powder weekly.
Alex Hoekstra <alex.gmu@gmail.com> wrote:
>I'm not sold on the notion that soy protein can totally replace animal
>protein from a nutritional standpoint. Soy is a phytoestrogen, and
>regular consumption on the scale of animal-protein consumption might
>have endocrine effects (I know of a few gents who swear by keeping
>away from soy). Still, soy is interesting in its uniqueness as a
>complete protein (containing all 10 essential amino acids), which
>(without the aid of synthetic biology), other plants cannot fulfill.
>It would be a very interesting project indeed to explore the protein
>synthesis pathways for the essential amino acids and to see if one
>might be able to introduce those pathways into something fast-growing,
>robust, cheap and tasty.
>
>The fact that Venter is into this idea is beyond encouraging. If
>nothing else, that raises my expectations.
>
>On Feb 25, 6:02 pm, Cathal Garvey <cathalgar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> It would be fun, but you don't ned stuff to resemble meat to feed the
>world. You can already feed more people a fully nutritious diet with
>just plants. Soy, for example, fulfills all of one's protein needs, but
>tends to have healthier fats, more antioxidants, and a dose of
>anticancer "angiogenesis inhibitors" to boot.
>>
>> Meat is a wasteful use of fertile farmland. You don't need synbio to
>fix the problem, though you can still use it to improve the nutritive
>value of crops. Look up "golden rice", you'll like it!
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>> Mega <masterstorm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >Guys, I was thinkig about that stuff.
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>> >To make 1 kg of goat meat, you need 10 kg wheat. If a wolve eats the
>> >goat, you need again 10 kg for 1 kg.
>> >Same game if a lion eats the wolve.
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>> >wheat->meat goat->meat wolve -> meat lion
>> >1000 -> 100 -> 10 -> 1
>> >So to make 1kg of lion meat you'd need 1000kg of wheat.
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>> >(Now imagine a human eating the lion -> 10'000kg or 10 tons!!)
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>> >Are there alternatives? Why not eat photosynthesing bacteria, that
>> >would be the most effcient (besides 'eating' sunlight).
>> >Is it possible to grow bacteria, make a pellet by centrifuging,
>> >heating them up to kill them and eat the pellet?
>> >(Remember: 10t of equals or 1 kg human)
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>> >Or, another approach:
>> >Why not make plants produce proteins that meat is made of?
>> >so you would infact have meat, but it was grown in a plant.
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>> >Maybe the body of the plant shall consist of meat or it could make
>> >fruits (immagine a water melon filled with meat).
>>
>> >So there would be drastically more food. You could possibly feed 100
>> >bio of people with that!?
>>
>> >What do you think about that?
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