Re: [DIYbio] Re: BiohaX - DIYbio video series and kickstarter?

i'm starting up the initiatr thing, but my hope is to announce the kickstarter some time next week.

I'd still really like some estimate of cost, just a lowball estimate for the minimum of the funding. (you don't get money unless you reach your goal, but you can go over it) so like 1k, 2k? i just need something 

On Friday, May 25, 2012 7:05:40 AM UTC-7, Alex Hoekstra wrote:

I know where you're coming from, and I agree - you'll need a lab of your own, even if a modest one, in order to produce your own original content for the show.  I do think that if crowdsourcing is going to be your primary means of getting funding for that lab, the focus of the project's pitch should be on the production of the show (the lab being a necessary prop for the larger project of the show itself).

How about starting an Initiatr page for the project?  Initiatr is a pretty good platform for collaborative development on a project like this, especially when contributions might come from all over the world.  The project page could be used for brainstorming too, but might be even more useful in getting input from people with other skills.  =)  Since this is your baby, you should be the one to start the project (http://www.initiatr.com/), but once you do, I'll happily join/support and hopefully keep things moving.

On Friday, May 25, 2012 12:16:16 AM UTC-4, QDragon Leet wrote:

Well it is about the series but the main reason the funding is needed is for the my lab. I certainly want community involvement but if my audience (however small) is chipping in they'll likely want to see videos from me. Definitely if other hackers post video responses or something i could feature their experiments in a community segment. Still i've got quite a few ideas myself and my main goal is to introduce new people to biohacking, and i think by essentially learning just ahead of what i show the audience could make the information more digestible.

Again nothing is set in stone those are just my feelings about it.

On Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:28:45 AM UTC-7, Alex Hoekstra wrote:

Avery makes a good point, too.  I think a Kickstarter campaign designed around the notion of producing a DIYBio community video series (maybe part documentary, part news, part instructional) would stand a much better chance at success than would funding designated for a new garage lab setup.  I hope you take Avery up on the offer for some guidance on getting started, because I do think that having a little lab of your own would make the BioHaX series much more robust (you'd be able to demonstrate what experiments can be done with what equipment [and of course what safety protocols are called for]).

Again, I'm with you on this one and I hope you're only getting more excited about taking this on.  I'd be pleased and honored to help so don't hesitate to get in touch.

On Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:11:00 AM UTC-4, QDragon Leet wrote:

@Avery i understand your concern about the kickstarter, still your technical knowledge is greatly appreciated if you're wanting to contact me directly so we could discuss things 

On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:00:06 PM UTC-7, Avery wrote:

Alex makes a good point.

I think it would be more worthwhile to get funding to move A/V equipment to other labs and document what is actually happening.  It would be nice on our end publicity and sharing wise, and helpful on your end since you are just starting- it is hard to get things to work if you have no experience at all.  I know firsthand, because that is how I started out.

Feedback wise, I will be blunt and tell you that I am not a fan of throwing money at inexperienced people to start a lab.  I know what it is like to want to get started- trust me, I was there.  But it costs a lot to build a lab, and I can't really get behind buying a lab for a few people with no experience to do some very vague R&D and filmography.  If you were going to open a community space and had a community ready to move in, or if you had some lab experience, I might be able to get behind that.

That said, if you are really excited about this, I can help you figure out how to do basic experiments, or even hard things.  If you can document those more and build up some cred, it might help you with your kickstarter.

Good luck,

Avery

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