Re: [DIYbio] Re: Where in the world to learn practical diybio?

CUNY - NYC
$165/credit PT-Time NY Resident
$260/credit PT-Time Out-Of-State Resident

$50/semester Technology Fee
$15/semester Consolidated Service Fee

Most courses are 3 or 4 credits, but you get a combined 6 hours of lab
and lecture each week

For $725-1105 (in state, out of state), you get access to equipment,
consumables, library access for journal articles and books, and the
chance to hear about research and professors that you might be
interested in (that you might not otherwise come across)

Facilities/Equipment list
http://www.cuny.edu/research/faculty-resources/core-facilities.html

So 4 hours at genspace (a relaxed environment relative to a college
setting I think) in evening for $300, $75/hour

6 hours/week * 16 weeks / $725 = $7.55/hour, for out-of-state its $11.51/hour

96 hours vs 4 hours is are very different commitments/endeavors, but
you do have a choice. Also genspace isn't in the certification
business, so they probably won't mind holding your hand a bit if you
don't meet the pre-requisite knowledge requirements like 1 year gen
bio and chem, or whatever colleges require... (I could definitely have
handled most of my biotech major courses with no pre-reqs)



These all look pretty good, if you don't have the $$ I'd try to audit
them or find the room number and lecture times and just sneak in.

http://student.cuny.edu/cgi-bin/CourseCatalog/CCatEvaluate.pl?DB=ORACLE&STYLE=NEW&COMPLETE=1&CALLEDBY=CGEVALUATE&CGCOLLEGE=02&CGPREFIX=BIO&CGNUMBER=3035

http://student.cuny.edu/cgi-bin/CourseCatalog/CCatEvaluate.pl?DB=ORACLE&STYLE=NEW&COMPLETE=1&CALLEDBY=CGEVALUATE&CGCOLLEGE=19&CGPREFIX=BIO&CGNUMBER=472

http://student.cuny.edu/cgi-bin/CourseCatalog/CCatEvaluate.pl?DB=ORACLE&STYLE=NEW&COMPLETE=1&CALLEDBY=CGEVALUATE&CGCOLLEGE=01&CGPREFIX=SCI&CGNUMBER=28000

http://student.cuny.edu/cgi-bin/CourseCatalog/CCatEvaluate.pl?DB=ORACLE&STYLE=NEW&COMPLETE=1&CALLEDBY=CGEVALUATE&CGCOLLEGE=11&CGPREFIX=BIO&CGNUMBER=05700

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Avery louie <inactive.e@gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree that can be a good option if you are willing to sign up for a 16
> week course, but I still think that classes offered at DIY spaces are a
> better value for most people.
>
> -They are offered at times where working professionals/people who cannot
> take a 16 week course can take them
>
> -They emphasize labwork as opposed to lecture
>
> And at BOSSLAB at least, the cost is equipment and consumables.  Not all the
> spaces offering these classes are genespace or biocurious; BOSSLAB really
> needs funding for things like an automatic sterilizer, pipette tips, and the
> like- there are no membership dues.
>
> --Avery
>
> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Nathan McCorkle <nmz787@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:03 PM, ruphos <apokruphos@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Reagents are often cheap, but the equipment and, more importantly, the
>> > space
>> > are not. The class fees are not so much for making a profit, but rather
>> > to
>> > keep things going.
>> >
>>
>> I agree with space costs, but equipment can be had relatively cheap
>> for very basic intro stuff. I'm not sure if the genspace has a
>> membership fee, and if that covers space costs or not.
>>
>> In my hometown, a community college credits are about $70, so a 4
>> credit 16 week class should be about $300, maybe a little more if
>> there are lab fees and taxes. If you want the most bang for your buck
>> (dollar), I suggest getting into a molecular bio course with a lab (or
>> similar) at a community college.
>>
>> --
>> Nathan McCorkle
>> Rochester Institute of Technology
>> College of Science, Biotechnology/Bioinformatics
>>
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