Re: [DIYbio] 3D printing medical devices

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Michael Turner wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Bryan Bishop wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Michael Turner wrote:
>>> Yes, but is making bone replacements that have no biological
>>> components within scope for DIYbio? It might be biomimesis, and
>>> potentially DIY. But where's the actual biology? That's the question
>>> here.
>>
>> Sure, probably.
>
> Do you mean "sure, probably, that's the question here"?

No, in this case I mean that a do-it-yourself biologist could
conceivably make a prosthetic object from plastic, implant himself
with it, and claim that he did the project himself (because, in this
situation we're imagining, he did). This is sometimes under the wing
of the field called bioengineering if you go look for these people at
schools. But yes there's still biology involved in it. But to my
knowledge, the only group of people working on DIY prosthetics has
been the one that Jonathan Kuniholm associates with. The item in
question in the article was about some academic lab? I didn't look
closely, Nathan could chime in here.

> If I now sound painfully anal-retentive to you, well, that's how the

Nope, you do not sound painfully anal-retentive.

> good parts of Wikipedia get built and maintained: by neurotics like
> me. You think I'm bad? Try these people on for size:

No, I don't think you're bad at all. What gave you that impression :-(.

>> ... There are many things that you could do on your
>> own, but is enumerating that list within the scope of a Wikipedia
>> article?
>
> Yes, absolutely, IF it's about some DIY topic on Wikipedia. And there
> are many of those, even within subcategories of DIY, e.g.,:

Okay. So this guy keeps billions of lists:

http://ideonomy.mit.edu/gunkel.html

Surely they do not all belong in an article about biohacking ;-).

> And now I'm trying to interpret your interpretation. May I suggest
> that the discussion move to where such discussions are supposed to
> happen, which is the Wikipedia talk page for the article(s)?

No. I already have my comments on the discussion page anyway. My
original intention was to talk about this with other biohackers
because they are not on that talk page. If you notice, I have been
highly responsive on the talk page over multiple years. If you have
something to bring up on there, I am sure I will respond quickly.

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:DIYbio
>
> That way, I (and Kanzure, who is pitching in too) can more easily

Dude, that's my email address. Who did you think you were talking with? :-(

Carry on :-).

- Bryan
http://heybryan.org/
1 512 203 0507

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