Re: [DIYbio] 3D printing medical devices

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 4:33 PM, kingjacob <kingjacob@gmail.com> wrote:
> @michael: just a heads up, in google groups you can fork a conversation by
> editing the subject. So rather than clutter the wiki cleaning discussion
> which is still over here with talk of 3D printing Medical Devices, we now
> have two conversations.

They aren't quite separate issues if, in fact, the 3D printing of
medical devices -- specifically implantable ones -- fails to qualify
as DIYbio.

> Anywho, back to 3D printing. Yes, the articles I posted are academic but
> that's really just a word. Maybe 7 years ago when the work was first done it
> would have been outside the scope(read: price range) of DIYbio but not
> today.

I need what Wikipedia calls a reliable source. Can you give me a quote
from a peer-reviewed journal, book, news article? Blogs and mailing
lists generally don't count. I've got you saying that 3D printing of
medical devices (or components thereof) is DIYbio. Period. Someone
else is saying it's DIYbio if you then implant the device in yourself.
Presumably, if you implant one in someone else, you're practicing
medicine, which is not exactly DIY unless you're doing it without a
license, in which case ....

Forget hypotheticals.

Give me a proper source.

Regards,
Michael Turner
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> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Michael Turner
> <michael.eugene.turner@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Note: the following is a tangent from the discussion about cleaning up
>> Wikipedia's DIYbio (and possibly some other relevant articles).
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:12 AM, kingjacob <kingjacob@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > You can print in titanium using Direct Metal Laser Sintering.
>> [snip]
>>
>> Yes, but is making bone replacements that have no biological
>> components within scope for DIYbio? It might be biomimesis, and
>> potentially DIY. But where's the actual biology? That's the question
>> here.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Michael Turner
>> Project Persephone
>> 1-25-33 Takadanobaba
>> Shinjuku-ku Tokyo 169-0075
>> (+81) 90-5203-8682
>> turner@projectpersephone.org
>> http://www.projectpersephone.org/
>>
>> "Love does not consist in gazing at each other, but in looking outward
>> together in the same direction." -- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
>>
>> > On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Nathan McCorkle <nmz787@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I've never heard anyone on here discussing printable hip
>> >> replacements... it sounds like a bad idea anyway, seeing as how poor
>> >> 3D printer plastics fair in strength. Most joint replacements are made
>> >> of titanium, etc... Who put that in there?
>> >>
>> >> It also has really old info scattered throughout, and doesn't mention
>> >> anything of the years of FBI interaction we've had
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Bryan Bishop <kanzure@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > The wikipedia articles are still awful.
>> >> >
>> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biohacking
>> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIYbio
>> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biopunk
>> >> >
>> >> > At least that last one is somewhat less awful. Anyone want to take
>> >> > cleanup
>> >> > duty?
>> >> >
>> >> > - Bryan
>> >> > http://heybryan.org/
>> >> > 1 512 203 0507
>> >> >
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