Re: [DIYbio] Wikipedia clean up

I don't think Biopunk should be merged, but as pointed out; the
description of Biopunk is basically that of "biohacking", and they
should not be synonymous.

Biopunk: A sci-fi trope and a political-ish skew of biotechnology.
Biohacking: An activity describing advanced biology techniques applied
outside of a commercial or academic context.

Biopunk's article should discuss the fictional and real-world dimensions
of offgrid/outlaw/antiestablishment biotechnology, Biohacking/DIYbio
articles should concern themselves with activities, methods, individuals
and events, with reference where appropriate to the Biopunk article (and
V/V).

...in my opinion.

On 27/09/12 03:06, Bryan Bishop wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Michael Turner
> <michael.eugene.turner@gmail.com> wrote:
>> There is no biohacking outside DIYbio membership? If, in Wikipedia
>
> There is no DIYbio membership. DIYbio the organization itself is
> rather unnotable save for the massive amounts of news coverage people
> on this list generate. DIYbio the concept is as just as blurred with
> "biohacking" and "biopunk" and "amateur biology".. they are all the
> same thing.
>
>> notability terms, there's a notable main exemplar organization for a
>> practice that is, in itself, notable, they are at least *candidates*
>> for separate articles.
>
> Makes sense to me.
>
>>> The biopunk article is rather peculiar, because it describes a
>>> "subculture within a subculture" which isn't really true, it's the
>>> same culture and the same people.
>>
>> If that false distinction were disclaimed in an independent reliable
>> source, it's something you could use as the basis for a claim of
>> equivalence. Or if there's a quote from some reasonably notable figure
>> in the movement saying they are they same, it could be reported in the
>> article as a quote.
>
> I don't understand. There's no primary source that says there is a
> distinction in the first place. From what I recall happening, Patrik
> got upset about diybio.org using a mailing list, and registered
> biopunk.org because he wanted to use forums to communicate with
> people.
>
>>> The news refs back this up for at
>>> least the past 10 years.
>>
>> Do they do so directly or indirectly.
>
> Go read them. In one article I'm called a biohacker, and in the next
> I'm called a biopunk or whatever.
>
>> How about a merging of the articles "biopunk" and "biohacking," with a
>> redirect from biopunk to biohacking?
>
> I think that would be a very sane change.
>
> - Bryan
> http://heybryan.org/
> 1 512 203 0507
>


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