Re: [DIYbio] Wikipedia clean up

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Michael Turner
<michael.eugene.turner@gmail.com> wrote:
> There is no biohacking outside DIYbio membership? If, in Wikipedia

There is no DIYbio membership. DIYbio the organization itself is
rather unnotable save for the massive amounts of news coverage people
on this list generate. DIYbio the concept is as just as blurred with
"biohacking" and "biopunk" and "amateur biology".. they are all the
same thing.

> notability terms, there's a notable main exemplar organization for a
> practice that is, in itself, notable, they are at least *candidates*
> for separate articles.

Makes sense to me.

>> The biopunk article is rather peculiar, because it describes a
>> "subculture within a subculture" which isn't really true, it's the
>> same culture and the same people.
>
> If that false distinction were disclaimed in an independent reliable
> source, it's something you could use as the basis for a claim of
> equivalence. Or if there's a quote from some reasonably notable figure
> in the movement saying they are they same, it could be reported in the
> article as a quote.

I don't understand. There's no primary source that says there is a
distinction in the first place. From what I recall happening, Patrik
got upset about diybio.org using a mailing list, and registered
biopunk.org because he wanted to use forums to communicate with
people.

>> The news refs back this up for at
>> least the past 10 years.
>
> Do they do so directly or indirectly.

Go read them. In one article I'm called a biohacker, and in the next
I'm called a biopunk or whatever.

> How about a merging of the articles "biopunk" and "biohacking," with a
> redirect from biopunk to biohacking?

I think that would be a very sane change.

- Bryan
http://heybryan.org/
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