Hey Marc,
I thought about making this step since I first had the idea at the iGEM jamboree 2009 in the MIT... btw: some credit also goes to a mexican biology (probably ex-student by now). After the party we were joking about synthetic biology and what we could do with it... but later i reconsidered the idea and it turned out to be much more than a joke and really doable. Thats how this idea was born. I forgot the name of the mexican though.
He was someone of those people: http://2009.igem.org/Team:LCG-
I kept it for myself all the time waiting for a chance to develop it. Then I looked into patenting procedures
and startup stuff until I now made this decision to make it public. Basically the Gates foundation contract
claims all IP property when only submitting an idea. So I thought its best to have the IP it in the public domain before submitting :P
As far as I understand the legal situation, I now cannot patent it in europe anymore, but still in the US.
Maybe I would do it in the US to convince investors, but I am not very eager to do so.
If the concepts works as i imagine it, it would be a quite powerfull device, and there is a chance of abuse of that power. I really think we dont need a Monsanto type of company for human reproduction...
so i figured that it is probably most safe and more likely to have a beneficial outcome in the public domain.
Ideally, I can convince companies worldwide as well as public researchers to join forces and develop the thing together. For companies it would be beneficial since they would only need to pay a little share of the development costs but could start producing and selling relatively quickly. The WHO is, as far as i know, also interested in getting such developments done, so maybe they could pay the clinical trials, at least partially.
If someone would like to join in the project: It needs a website for researchers to share data and ideas about it.
I would upload all my labresults to it and then hope for others to join in. Some kind of crowdsourcing mechanism...
Of course this is a bit a naive and optimistic approach, but it is the best I can do, since I am not the director
of a big institute and dont see any clear path to get it going on my own without selling all the rights and then taking the risk of monopolistic abuse. And even for a bio startup it is a too big thing to tackle drug development.
Such an endeavour takes at least 10 years and approx. 500million dollars... Most entrepreneurs i talked to just keep their ideas secret, dont patent and then try to find someone who will buy it after a few years of development. So only really big companies can bring it all the way to the market.... or really many small people alltogether ( the linux style). lets see what happens, it is an open-source biotech experiment :)
Another reason not to patent is: it is a pain in the ass and i did not study biology for 7 years to torture my brain with law and bureaucrazy. All professors I talked to (including the golden rice inventor Peter Beyer) said they did it once and never again... so that speaks for itself, i'd say. I want to travel, meet cool people and develop sciency stuff that benefits mankind altogether. Nothing against having a decent ammount of money, but i just dont need to die super rich in the end...there is no reason for that and I only have one lifetime, so why wasting it by obsessing about money and all these unpleasent activities that come along with it. Reproduction is much cooler topic to wrap your mind around - and much more important, either :D
I just need someone to pay my further research...so if Bill doesnt want my idea, does anyone know
where to find funding for stuff like that? At best just ask all your profs and pharma people around you if they want to contribute or have a good suggestion how to proceed.
Am Donnerstag, 4. April 2013 22:47:49 UTC+2 schrieb Juul:
--On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Ruediger Trojok <ruedi...@googlemail.com> wrote:
I hope they will still consider the application :)The idea is with this email in the public domain. (1minute before I submit the proposal to Gates foundation)Hey everyone,As soon as i find the time i will file a more in depth description of my work and idea.
hereby i make public my work of the last 9 months (which is my Biology Diploma Thesis).
Looks very interesting! I've never heard of using genetically modified probiotics for birth control. Good luck with your application :)This work is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License. To view a copy of this license, visit http://creativecommons.org/ licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/ .
Awesome.
I'm curious. Assuming that you get lots of money thrown at you and everything is a success, what do you plan to with regards to patenting vs. keeping it open and how do you feel that keeping it open might affect efforts to bring such a product to market?
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