Re: [DIYbio] Re: Help for thesis: american law regulating research

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> anything is allowed as long as not proven dangerous (evidence based)
That might be taking the praise too far, because in *both* continents
there is sometimes a distinct *lack* of caution. I cite as evidence the
number of chemicals that are in use industrially for which little safety
information is available, and the number of chemicals whose regulatory
status remains very loose despite reams of evidence that they cause harm
(bisphenol A, I'm looking at you).

So, a little caution is OK. Technically speaking, the EU system is
superior, if it were honestly implemented. That is, in EU each GMO must
be independently considered for safety and responsibility, regardless of
the "source organisms". So, you could use a restriction enzyme from the
black death, and in principal nobody will bat an eyelid, because it's
*just a restriction enzyme dammit*.

On the other hand, the US system has a list of organisms that are
considered "baddies", and anything to do with them (the select list) is
essentially banned sans huge regulatory overhead. So your
yersinia-pestis restriction enzyme is out of the question. But this
system fails to account for potentially dangerous activities (few as
they are!) that fall outside the select list.

So EU need to stop being so stupid about issuing licenses, and the US
need to overhaul their system to make more sense. And both of them need
to get over this "BIO(T)ERROR!!!1" fearmongering and get back to science
and development.


On 25/01/14 19:45, Mega [Andreas Stuermer] wrote:
>
>>
>> So, my question: Are there any regulations in America or do you have to
>> abide by any law?
>
>
> I just know that S1 is unregulated. So it seems to be an absence of
> regulation in this particular case. Rüdiger from Berlin mentioned there
> even is a German law granting freedom of doing science, Recht auf freie
> Wissenschaft (or something like that).
>
>
> As you sure know, this right stops with genetic modification here in
> Austria as well as in Germany.
>
> suppose that it might be important if you want to establish a community
>> lab or if you need materials for experiments. Or even if you tinker at
>> home, isn't there any limiting rule??
>
>
> AFAIK, you can do anything as long as it is not S2 regulated.
>
>
> The total American law system is totally diferent from ours. while we have
> the precautionary principle - everything is forbidden that is not allowed,
> in the US anything is allowed as long as not proven dangerous (evidence
> based)
>
>
> Greetings from Oberösterreich,
> Andreas
>

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