Re: [DIYbio] Re: Help for thesis: american law regulating research

There are also regulations/recommendations for chem/bio/equipment
suppliers, such as requiring a purchaser to provide documentation on
legal business status and rental contract for the shipping address.
These help build a credibility profile of a person, since the multiple
items would be hard for a small-time crook to forge easily, it gives
them a coherent direction to point a finger towards if something goes
wrong. The rental agreement is considered their due diligence for
ensuring within reason that a purchaser is following zoning laws and
that their activities (lab/business) are consented by the property
owner (i.e. many apartment rental contracts state no business activity
allowed to transact). This makes sense to me, as evident in the poor
choice of residential-commercial zone buffers in a case like this:
http://www.itstactical.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/west_texas_fertilizer_plant_blast_map.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Fertilizer_Company_explosion

"In addition to the obliterated plant, the damaged buildings included
the public West Middle School, which sits next to the facility.[23] A
neighboring 50-unit, two-story apartment building was destroyed."

People don't expect random chemical accidents in their neighborhoods.

On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 1:01 PM, kingjacob <kingjacob@gmail.com> wrote:
> In the US BS levels are guidelines not specific regulations.
>
> So generally you can do anything, provided you don't fall afoul of another
> agencies specific regulations:
>
> OSHA(if you have employees)
> EPA(environmental release)
> CDC(when dealing with select agents)
> NIH/NSF(only when receiving funding from those sources)
> City Laws(Zoning issues if you don't live in Houston).
> FDA/HHS(if you are doing something that requires an IRB ie human studies)
>
> I much prefer this method, because adding a restriction across the board
> would just add a cost to independents and school labs, while not actually
> increasing safety. Since everyone mostly follows the CDCs guidelines even if
> they don't have to. And it's not the creation of a GMO in a lab that's
> potentially harmful but releasing said GMO which is already regulated by the
> EPA and/or the FDA.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Mega [Andreas Stuermer]
> <masterstorm123@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> So, my question: Are there any regulations in America or do you have to
>>> abide by any law?
>>
>>
>> I just know that S1 is unregulated. So it seems to be an absence of
>> regulation in this particular case. Rüdiger from Berlin mentioned there even
>> is a German law granting freedom of doing science, Recht auf freie
>> Wissenschaft (or something like that).
>>
>>
>> As you sure know, this right stops with genetic modification here in
>> Austria as well as in Germany.
>>
>>> suppose that it might be important if you want to establish a community
>>> lab or if you need materials for experiments. Or even if you tinker at home,
>>> isn't there any limiting rule??
>>
>>
>> AFAIK, you can do anything as long as it is not S2 regulated.
>>
>>
>> The total American law system is totally diferent from ours. while we have
>> the precautionary principle - everything is forbidden that is not allowed,
>> in the US anything is allowed as long as not proven dangerous (evidence
>> based)
>>
>>
>> Greetings from Oberösterreich,
>> Andreas
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