RE: [DIYbio] Re: Stop Frankenfish?

Or lab grown controlled hydroponics? Never touches dirt or
pesti-herbi-omnicides. All nutrient doses controlled using ultrapure
macro and micronutrients. Packed aseptically in a clean environment.
Strains can for once be modified for taste and nutritional content (few
GMO plants focus on consumption quality) rather than resistance to bug
x and chemical y. If anything, a micro propagated hydrofarm the size of
a modest skyscraper could feed a city year round and be somewhat
sustainable if built using solar, wind, high efficiency lighting,
greenroofs, and recycle the water. Using fiber optics to pipe light
from sun during the day can supplement lights. That would technically
be a kind of organic beyond organic. Ultra-Pure veggies? Just a
thought. Sorry for off topic. :)

I know it won't work as a centralized source of crops for mass
production or export but one or two per metropolis would be a nice
addition. At least fresh vine and bush crops like legumes and
nightshade family year round sounds good. I've eaten some tomatoes I've
grown to fruition invitro (microtomato) and they tasted great. Its more
expensive to do so but if hipsters in Brooklyn can charge a super
premium for tomatoes grown in their backyard or silly queens roof top
garden crops selling to high end restaurants for 10x the street price
can find a market so can this. Again pardon the digression and way off
topic post.

Sebastian S. Cocioba
CEO & Founder
New York Botanics, LLC
Plant Biotech R&D From: Cathal Garvey
Sent: 2/14/2014 6:55 AM
To: diybio@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [DIYbio] Re: Stop Frankenfish?
Roundup shouldn't be used as heavily as it is, but I wouldn't concede
the point that it's pretty safe, as herbicides go. It degrades quickly
in moisture, sunlight, or oxygen. So I wouldn't worry about Glyphosate
residues in food, nor much about run-off from fields (as it binds clay
in soil very strongly and degrades in soil).

I would however still choose foods farmed with minimal chemical
application overall, and preferentially I'd choose "permaculturally
grown" food, rather than "organic".

"Organic" is only marginally better than "Biodynamic" and means "grown
according to strict, arbitrary restrictions on some things, with no
restrictions on actually harmful practices, and certified as Organic by
huge organisations that fund animal cruelty and fake science".

"Permaculture" is not "certified" by anyone, so if you trust the seller,
it just means "food grown according to methods believed in good faith by
the provider to be valid methods of growing food indefinitely with
minimal impact", or some variation on that theme. Half the time, this
happens to include complete nonsense like Biodynamics, anti-GMO, etc.,
but there are plenty of permaculturalists out there (myself included)
who are entirely comfortable with the use of technology.

On 13/02/14 21:47, Mega [Andreas Stuermer] wrote:
> Or the information if you have a product only containing class1 genes, there will be no roundup/herbicide residues on the plant. that may be good for your health.
>

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