Re: [DIYbio] Ultra-Cheap DNA Printing/Sequencing

With raman detection and sufficiently dilute dNTPS, you could
potentially use terminal transferase. Sourcing the dNTPs would be akin
to the recent thread on purifying the triphosphates... I remember you
comparing that to cleaning up agar into agarose at home, and how it
wouldn't really be efficient!

On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Cathal Garvey
<cathalgarvey@cathalgarvey.me> wrote:
> Hm, I happen to know a Raman expert! :)
> For me though, while better chemical methods and nanotechnology stuff is
> great, I'm a sucker for "self-bootstrapping systems". That's part of
> what makes biology awesome, after all.
>
> So, I won't be happy until we have a biological DNA synthesis reaction
> or system that can be home-brewed in its entirity! Everything until then
> is a stopgap!
>
> On 22/02/14 00:54, Nathan McCorkle wrote:
>> you don't need some new kind of laser to do that though, you just need
>> the right optical know-how and a decent detector setup. Read the
>> patents by Helicos and you'll find plenty of similar setups in
>> academic literature:
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/diybio/Ke7BqPUD46A
>>
>> You can label-free detection by moving to a Raman setup.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Cathal Garvey
>> <cathalgarvey@cathalgarvey.me> wrote:
>>> Well, Sung (@bookhling) can do nano-lasers. I recall he did bio-nanodots
>>> and got them to lase. Crazyballs.
>>>
>>> On 22/02/14 00:32, John Griessen wrote:
>>>> On 02/21/2014 01:40 PM, L wrote:
>>>>> The resulting oglios would then be preferentially selected by
>>>>> sequencing all and destroying the ones that don't match the desired
>>>>> sequence.
>>>>>
>>>>> So basically, yes.
>>>>
>>>> But, nanofabbing of nano-lasers, or even lenses that can aim at a nano
>>>> speck of anything?
>>>> Not in my bag of tricks...
>>>>
>>>> Cathal Garvey wrote:
>>>>> An alternative reaction without chain-branching, which can be recovered
>>>>> as pure DNA using PCR, would be great.
>>>>
>>>> But, following a published method like,
>>>>
>>>> "I've seen at least one paper on this but lost it, and forgot the
>>>> keywords! - It used a DNA analogue
>>>> for the synthesis step, which was compatible enough with DNA Polymerases
>>>> that it could be PCR'd into real DNA afterwards."
>>>>
>>>> seems less imaginary. Thermo-cyclers we can do. Nano-lasers NOT (yet...)
>>>>
>>>
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>>
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