Re: [DIYbio] Re: polymerase expr/purification WAS:Anyone need some synthesis?

Yep that was the idea. Error correction. A lot of the time I need to do HUGE PCRs which taq is not good at (So many errors) in which case I use Q5. 

By the way, anyone know what Q5 polymerase is? Its like over 100x less error prone then Taq and like 3x as fast. But I couldn't find an organism they got it from... and when I looked at their patents last (it was a while ago) it had something on DNA binding domains. Might be a synthetic polymerase

Back on topic, pfu didn't seem to have any and was a decent size, only like 2300bp or something. Intiens... those sound interesting. (It might have some relevance to another project I am doing, thanks for bringing it up!)
On Friday, March 21, 2014 5:33:27 PM UTC-7, Cathal Garvey wrote:
Taq's error rate is an issue, but adding a small amount of proofreading
polymerase can make up for that. So you taq's speed and affordability,
and error-correction/processiveness provided by other pols.

I think the apparent difficulty in the early papers can probably be
heavily attributed to poorly optimised DNA; Thermus aquaticus is hardly
a close relative of E.coli. I haven't looked at the codon usage tables,
but I wouldn't be surprised to see an issue there.

Same goes for most thermophiles, so I'd caution against using them
without even a little optimisation? :)

Also, watch out for inteins, I recall finding a proofreading thermopol
in uniprot that was *huge* but a large portion of that was an intein, so
could be dispensed with when designing an artificial gene if you
identify the intein splice sites and chop everything between them out.

That also introduced me to the existence of inteins, which are bonkers.

On 22/03/14 00:24, Sebastian Cocioba wrote:
>   I know u hate taq but did u see the eBay offer of $23/1000u? And I
> believe 50,000u for $200. Thats cheap. SydLabs has a one time deal of 20%
> off an already cheap price too.
>
> Sebastian S. Cocioba
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> New York Botanics, LLC
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> Subject: [DIYbio] Re: polymerase expr/purification WAS:Anyone need some
> synthesis?
>
> It was just my idea to do pfu because look at how cheap they can make
> taq... it would be essentially the same protocol
>
> and NEB's stuff is like a dollar a PCR
>
> On Friday, March 21, 2014 3:39:09 PM UTC-7, phillyj wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Koeng <koen...@gmail.com <javascript:>>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey
>>>
>>> I am doing a large synthesis order soon from gen9. However, they insist
>> upon synthesis of at least 25kbs, and I unfortunately only need 20kbps
>> synthesized. If anyone wants to get some genes for cheap, contact me. It is
>> 20 cents a base pair ( .5 to 3kbp) and as a little incentive I will also
>> include a (native) pfu polymerase gene for expression in E coli :)
>>>
>>
>> How hard is it to express and purify polymerase in E coli? I was
>> browsing Engelke's paper on it. It looks complicated and not easily
>> done unless you got some specific equipment. Otherwise, it's very
>> doable. Anyone here tried this?
>>
>> Engelke, David R., et al. "Purification of Thermus aquaticus DNA
>> polymerase expressed in Escherichia coli." Analytical Biochemistry
>> 191.2 (1990): 396-400.
>> Available at:
>> http://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/28292/0000046.pdf
>>
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