Re: [DIYbio] IP free fluorescent protein

The point wouldn't even be to necessarily improve it, it would be to
modify it in such a way that it is no longer similar to the original
patented sequence, enough so that it wouldn't be covered by the IP.
But IP is specifically written to cover large amounts of modifications
so as to specifically avoid that exact thing happening.

In all honestly I'd say if you have an idea just go for it, if someone
goes to sue you that means you're doing something worthwhile enough to
get attention. If it's unique enough, who knows, maybe the people you
piss off might buy it from you. Or at the least you can put on an
application that you were sued by a large corporation for doing some
badass science.

On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Avery louie <inactive.e@gmail.com> wrote:
> Iirc in order to get a patent on an improvement on something, there needs to
> be a technical improvement, not just adding/removing a codon.
>
> On Apr 26, 2014 2:26 PM, "Dakota Hamill" <dkotes@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ha, I realized I just asked the same question a while ago in the
>> thread above this one. Oh well
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Dakota Hamill <dkotes@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > This is what is frustrating about these things. On one hand, if you
>> > work your ass off for years, it's nice to feel like you will get
>> > rewarded for your hard work, and have ownership over whatever product
>> > or IP you created. On the other hand, it seems to hinder people
>> > making progress on their own work unless they pay X amount of $ to
>> > license said technology. I understand you can use anything you want
>> > in R&D, but you can never make a profit off something if you've used
>> > someone else's IP. Or rather, you can, but you might get sued. Of
>> > course, I am generalizing because I don't know all the rules, and
>> > haven't bothered to learn them as it subtracts from time doing
>> > science.
>> >
>> > In terms of "patented" proteins or plasmids, at what point would
>> > modifying the sequence slightly make it a new entity?
>> >
>> > As in, you find you can add an extra codon which doesn't affect the
>> > desired behavior of the protein of interest, so does that mean it is
>> > no longer covered by the original IP?
>> >
>> > Also, I can't imagine a company going after someone for IP
>> > infringement if the payout wouldn't be worth it.
>> >
>> > Can someone really patent a DNA sequence, or just the application of
>> > the protein which results from the DNA sequence.
>> >
>> > As in, I didn't think the actually gene for Taq was able to be
>> > patented, but plasmids which had the gene and were used in recombinant
>> > production of the Taq protein was what was actually patented. I don't
>> > know..it's a slippery slope I suppose.
>> >
>> > On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Sebastian Cocioba <scocioba@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >> I'm using a CDS derived from DNA 2.0s proteins. They are in fact IP
>> >> free.
>> >> The sequence is only given once you buy the plasmid. They are quite
>> >> expensive.
>> >>
>> >> Sebastian S. Cocioba
>> >> CEO & Founder
>> >> New York Botanics, LLC
>> >> Plant Biotech R&D
>> >> ________________________________
>> >> From: Mega [Andreas Stuermer]
>> >> Sent: ‎4/‎26/‎2014 1:44 PM
>> >> To: diybio@googlegroups.com
>> >> Subject: [DIYbio] IP free fluorescent protein
>> >>
>> >> Does anyone know whether there are IP free fluorescent proteins?
>> >>
>> >> I remember Cathal once mentioned the patent of wild-type GFP just
>> >> expired.
>> >> However, I would need some easy to use and bright *FP. Excitation like
>> >> common GFP would be nice.
>> >>
>> >> EGFP is still patented.
>> >>
>> >> What about the DNA 2.0 proteins, are their sequences known?
>> >>
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