Re: [DIYbio] kitchen DNA extraction not showing on the gels

Well, after rerunning with reduced NaCl and detergent, and being much more careful with the re-suspension in TE, there is more definitely glowing in the sample wells;



I'll updated the protocol, and try and run again with a longer gel time and maybe more +V


Cheers,
Tom



On 21 April 2014 02:03, Nathan McCorkle <nmz787@gmail.com> wrote:

The incubation times seem too long, nucleases could be chewing up the DNA in that time, if you're seeing a smear on the gel. I recommend using a coffee filter rather than gauze, or even doing it in two stages (gauze then coffee filter)... and your salts/ions seem much too massive... I'd think less than a gram in total should be fine. Many protocols I just found on Google are using 25-50g salts per liter, if they're included at all

 


The picture in the next email you sent doesn't look like fluorescense, rather it looks like absorbance... so your extraction might just not be pure enough in general. If the genomic DNA isn't too chewed up (by nucleases or mechanical shearing), it won't migrate very far anyway, certainly much much less than a 1kb ladder would.


On Apr 20, 2014 3:32 PM, "Tom Hodder" <tom@limepepper.co.uk> wrote:
Hi all,

I've tried this procedure a few times, and as yet I've not been able to see any bands in the samples channels that we extracted from the tomatoes.

Any suggestions on what I am doing wrong, because I'm starting to pull my hair out ;-)

Basically we have done a "kitchen" extraction of DNA from tomatoes, and we are getting some white gooey precipitate and a kind of red-ish pellet forming and rising to the top after the application of the cold isopropanol.

However after redissolving this in TE buffer, there is nothing showing in the channel when run on a gel. (The ladder lane is showing bands nicely. Also previously extracted DNA using a kit is showing in a positive control lane)

Here is the link to the google doc with the protocol and the stages photo;
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mXuL7l6o13a20EKw2KaahHs1RR04KdYhqwDXSU2oQgo/edit?usp=sharing


Extraction of DNA from tomatoes for running in 2% agarose/EtBr gel


86 g tomato

100 mL deionized water

5 mL detergent

25g salt

12g Sodium citrate


ice cold isopropanol

5 mL TE buffer

loading dye

ladder



extraction


1) chop and pulp tomato and put in sandwich bag


2) add 100 mL deionized water, 5 mL detergent, 25g salt to bag

3) squash and mix tomato in bag and leave for 20 mins


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4) strain liquid through gauze into test tube, fill to about ¼


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5) gently fill the test tube to ¾ full with ice cold isopropanol and leave for 15 minutes


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6) tried a few variations here; (none of which worked)


i) isolate the pellet of red precipitate that floated to the top


redissolve in TE buffer and add 1/5 loading dye to make a 1/6 dilution


ii) spin down a sample from the white cloudy stuff that has formed at the top of the alcohol layer


redissolve in TE buffer and add 1/5 loading dye to make a 1/6 dilution



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7) run the extracted DNA with loading dye;


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8) we are seeing the ladder lanes showing up in the UV, and the loading dye is running, but the sample lanes are completely empty.


There is a very faint suggestion of a glow in the well, but hardly anything



What are we doing wrong?


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