Re: [DIYbio] DIYbio against Ebola!

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IIRC, Ebola is enveloped. Usually, this means "highly susceptible to
solvents and detergents", so I wonder if the real area worth addressing
is trivial spray-down equipment?

That is, rather than changing suits between patients and isolation
units, why not design suits to be extremely efficiently spray-able
(highly wetting), and design an easily DIYable sprayer rig for cheap
detergent or alcohol?

Also interesting would be the nanotech approach, of designing an active
surface which behaved like a static "detergent", perhaps a hyper-wetting
surface that sort of "splats" the envelope on contact, leaving naked
viral capsids that can't adhere to cells.

On 04/10/14 20:10, Bryan Bishop wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:35 AM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> - Protective equipment is a huge issue, with health workers needing to
>> wear head-to-toe protective suits in 100+ F heat all day long. Can we learn
>> anything from how sports mascot suits are constructed with built-in
>> ventilation, for example? Just a wild idea...
>>
>
> You may be interested in looking into how astronauts keep cool. They have
> reduced maneuverability but there's all sorts of strange materials to help
> with heat management issues. Also, consider flipping it around where
> instead of isolating healthcare workers from patients, the patients should
> be the ones under isolation (and from each other, and don't contaminate
> different patients with the same hazard suits, etc). Unfortunately the cost
> of per-patient isolation is high. I am not sure how to solve that.
> Isolation tanks, flush to clean?
> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1070936311/zen-float-tent-first-affordable-isolation-tank-for
> Needs some rubber glove attachments, larger windows, temperature sensors,
> communication, entertainment/music, secure draining (or just constant flow
> of water), feeding, wash cycle, some way of keeping comfortable during dry
> cycles, etc. I haven't put much thought into this.
>
>
>> - Taking *off* those protective suits turns out to be a major source of
>> infections for hospital personnel. Could they be redesigned to be more
>> inherently safe to take off? NASA's new Z-1 Z-1 space suit has a hatch on
>> the back that allows the suit to dock with a portal on a spacecraft or
>> rover so an astronaut can crawl through without letting dust in or air out.
>> Probably overkill, but perhaps there's something to treating the entire
>> suit as a "glove" that you can take off.
>>
>
> I think overkill is better in this situation, since the alternative means
> possible infection. Start with overkill, then back off from there.
>
> - Bryan
> http://heybryan.org/
> 1 512 203 0507
>

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