Re: [DIYbio] Re: DIYbio in Heidelberg, Germany

I mean, you are right, biology is actually much more than GMO, so I am actually looking for what can be done.
Apparently congenic or cisgenic is possible in Germany, but still waste processing and containment are significant issues. I am a biologist, so I see it everyday the amount of dangerous waste I produce.
I'm trying to get in contact with biotinkering berlin, I guess they could answer to most of the questions.

I am reading the law and it seems quite disheartening, even extracting DNA would be impossible: production of aereosol during shredding of biological material might be dangerous.

On 11 April 2016 at 16:23, Cathal (Phone) <cathalgarvey@cathalgarvey.me> wrote:
Or cell-free synbio! Only cells are GMOs under the directive, although my francophone friends tell me that in France a plasmid can be a "GMO" too, so as always.. check local law.

Again: we need a central resource we can all refer to about this stuff. :/


On 11 April 2016 15:18:50 IST, Marco Raffaele Cosenza <marco.r.cosenza@gmail.com> wrote:
Having two ambiguous laws just makes everything more complicated...
The only way to go is indeed then a S1 lab, which is not too difficult, but it sets the initial investment quite high

On 11 April 2016 at 16:16, Mega [Andreas Stuermer] <masterstorm123@gmail.com> wrote:
Funny fact - in EU directive 2001/18/EC concerning deliverate release of GMOs, cisgenesis is not defined. In 2009/18/EC regarding contained use, it is.

So one time the same organism is a GMO and thus dangerous, in other circumstances it is not.

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