On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Nathan McCorkle <nmz787@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Erik Garrison <erik.garrison@gmail.com> wrote:The /Bla/ gene might be gone, but the BLA protein may still be around
>
> An impure isolate, with a small number of non-green cells relative to green
> ones, produced no GFP production. Although this could have been due to
> other issues, such as poor incubation conditions, it seemed plausible that
> non-GFP producing cells out-competed those which did, leading to a result
> which had no observable GFP production. (I did this. Beginner's mistake, I
> hope.)
>
> It got me thinking: what exactly is happening to the plasmid sequence in
> these cultures? The bla gene must not be degraded, or the cells couldn't
> grow on ampicillin media. However, the GFP gene is not under any kind of
> regulation, and is in effect turned on all the time, so any cell which has
> it should produce some GFP, albeit inefficiently if under poor conditions.
> It seems that this is a case of selective degradation, as without pressure
> on the production of the GFP, it will be relatively selected against.
post-cell death... (of the out-competed transformants)
Seems like your ampicillin concentration was probably just too low,
the initial cells in the area you subcultured were just slow to
grow/replicate, but then the green cells decreased the concentration
of amp even further with BLA, which lead to faster growth for the
wild-type cells and eventual takeover by them.
Interesting. I'll test this out the next time we do a transformation.
Do you have any sense of the concentrations which work best? Is it best to err on the side of too high?
Erik
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