Re: Re: [DIYbio] Equipment & Reagent Exchange

Is there a lawyer in house?

Seriously, when I read this:

"Chemical laboratory apparatus" means any item of equipment designed,
made, or adapted to manufacture a controlled substance or a controlled
substance analogue, including:

I thought a good lawyer could drive a truck though this statement. I have several Erlenmeyer flasks
but none were "designed, made, or adapted to manufacture a controlled substance". So does could
I legally own them in Texas or not? My guess is this is one of those laws that is used to
"pile on" somebody after they have been arrested for making crack. But the law being in Texas and
Texas being Texas who knows what would happen if some DIYer working with DNA in rural Texas
got poped.

Looks like it has the making of yet another Texas legal tragedy.

I would be concerned about this if I were in Texas.

Mike

On , Jay Woods <woodsjay@cox.net> wrote:
> This makes DIY even more important. Make or adapt (from other non-regulated
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> items) the equipment yourself. That is not controlled by the Texas
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> regulations.
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> On Saturday, March 10, 2012 04:06:56 PM Meredith L. Patterson wrote:
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> > AFAIK, "some places" == "Texas":
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> >
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> > http://www.crscientific.com/texas-glassware.html
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> >
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> > http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/RegulatoryServices/narcotics/narcprecursor.htm
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> > has the full list of controlled equipment:
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> >
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> > "Chemical laboratory apparatus" means any item of equipment designed,
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> > made, or adapted to manufacture a controlled substance or a controlled
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> > substance analogue, including:
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> >
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> > (A)  a condenser
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> > (B)  a distilling apparatus
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> > (C)  a vacuum drier
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> > (D)  a three-neck or distilling flask
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> > (E)  a tableting machine
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> > (F)  an encapsulating machine
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> > (G)  a filter, Buchner, or separatory funnel
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> > (H)  an Erlenmeyer, two-neck, or single-neck flask
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> > (I)  a round-bottom, Florence, thermometer, or filtering flask
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> > (J)  a Soxhlet extractor
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> > (K)  a transformer
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> > (L)  a flask heater
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> > (M)  a heating mantel  or
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> > (N)  an adaptor tube
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> >
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> > --mlp
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> >
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> > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 9:58 PM, Jeswin phillyj101@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > I heard that in some places there are laws against buying lab
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> > > glassware out of fear of meth production. You guys should check your
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> > > laws before you do anything of this sort. Don't be caught on the wrong
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> > > side of the law.
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> > >
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> > > Otherwise,  a good idea. It would be very useful if we had more community
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> > > labs.
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> > >
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> > > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Ethan argentumxy@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > >> I apologize for clogging up the group with my threads, but I had an idea
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> > >> (shocking as that may seem). Looking through old threads, I couldn't
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> > >> really find much about exchanging laboratory equipment and reagents
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> > >> between members here. I think if some system were set up, it would be
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> > >> useful to a lot of DIYbio members. That said, I quickly whipped up a
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> > >> Google docs spreadsheet that could be used to list items that you want
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> > >> to sell or trade to other members here. The link is at the end of this
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> > >> message. All DIYbio members should have access, but it is a very real
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> > >> possibility that I screwed something up as this is my first Google doc
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> > >> spreadsheet.
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> > >>
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> > >> I suppose some basic rules are needed:
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> > >> Only list in empty cells. If your item is no longer available (has been
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> > >> sold, traded, etc) please remove it from the listing. At the very least
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> > >> put the item and your email so that you may be contacted, but more info
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> > >> is probably useful.
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> > >>
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> > >> Let me know what you guys think of the idea.
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> > >>
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> > >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AllwKjhg8CTsdEhiU2VvVkxyS1R
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> > >> IWTNDc3FVNEw3R2c#gid=0
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