Re: [DIYbio] 3D printing medical devices

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:20 PM, kingjacob <kingjacob@gmail.com> wrote:

> To clarify, an eeg, glucometer and genotyping kit are just a few medical
> devices people have done as DIYbio. I'm not talking about implants for
> people to self implant. Though I wouldn't be opposed to talking about
> designing implants for others or even yourself if you partnered with an MD
> to properly carry out any procedure.

The specific passage I deleted from the article was a hip replacement
that wasn't biological. DIYmed? OK, whatever. But medicine is not
biology. It just uses biology, among other sciences.

> It's bioengineering, which is kind biology so I think it qualifies, not that
> there are really any qualifications of DIYbio ;)

Thanks for clarifying that there's no real clarity here. I was
confused about why I was confused.

>> Give me a proper source.
>
> Can't. I don't know anyone in DIYbio who's used 3D printing to make a
> medical device. That's why I started a thread on the subject.

OK, end of story, then, as far as mentioning implantables is concerned
on Wikipedia articles about DIYbio, anyway.

> I'm also sorry to inform you that there are no "proper sources" on what is
> or isn't DIYbio. The closest thing we have is a code of ethics that really
> only applies to those that follow it.

Wow. So if someone engages in DIYbio practices that violate DIYbio
ethics, it's actually NOT a violation of those ethics because those
ethics don't apply to those who violate them?

I think you need to look up the word "ethic".

> ... So paradoxes will always exist on what
> people think is or isn't DIYbio. You don't even have to do it all yourself
> for it to be DIYbio.

OK, so you also use DIYsemantics here. I get it now.

Unfortunately, that doesn't fly on Wikipedia. And this thread started
out of consideration of how to improve the DIYbio article and related
ones, on Wikipedia. I think I'll go back to that one now.

Regards,
Michael Turner
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