Re: [DIYbio] Fwd: Sharing best practices

On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Tim Schmidt <timschmidt@gmail.com> wrote:
> We are, in fact, talking about how best to convey information about a thing.
> Not the thing itself. If we just presented folks with the thing, and
> expected them to reverse engineer it, I wouldn't call that open.

But wait: if some DIY recipe actually calls for live yeast, what's the
point of not including "live yeast" in the BoM? (Or somewhere that
lists actual physical items, materials, ingredients, etc.) What's the
point of instead listing the DNA sequencing of the live yeast, if the
DNA of the live yeast is, in fact, irrelevant to what's being
described? If you actually need yeast, having the DNA for it won't
help unless you can completely fabricate yeast from scratch. And why
bother even if could? Just buy some yeast.

Regards,
Michael Turner
Project Persephone
1-25-33 Takadanobaba
Shinjuku-ku Tokyo 169-0075
(+81) 90-5203-8682
turner@projectpersephone.org
http://www.projectpersephone.org/

"Love does not consist in gazing at each other, but in looking outward
together in the same direction." -- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry



> On Oct 3, 2012 9:10 PM, "Michael Turner" <michael.eugene.turner@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 3:39 AM, Tim Schmidt <timschmidt@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Do DNA or RNA sequences belong in the BoM? I think not. We're talking
>> > about _open_ hardware. Not just hardware.
>>
>> When you wrote "a particular sort of organism", I took you to mean an
>> actual organism, rather than information about the organism.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Michael Turner
>> Project Persephone
>> 1-25-33 Takadanobaba
>> Shinjuku-ku Tokyo 169-0075
>> (+81) 90-5203-8682
>> turner@projectpersephone.org
>> http://www.projectpersephone.org/
>>
>> "Love does not consist in gazing at each other, but in looking outward
>> together in the same direction." -- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Oct 3, 2012 3:46 AM, "Michael Turner"
>> > <michael.eugene.turner@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Tim Schmidt <timschmidt@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > This doesn't appear to cover anything biological. If my OSHW design
>> >> > calls
>> >> > for a particular sort of organism, how should that work?
>> >>
>> >> Um ... put it in the Bill of Materials? It sounds odd to use that
>> >> category for anything living or organic-but-dead. Still, a coffeeshop
>> >> chain here in Japan sells branded muffins with a slogan on the plastic
>> >> packaging: "Made of the finest materials." Not especially chewy
>> >> muffins, so maybe they are right.
>> >>
>> >> -michael turner
>> >>
>> >> > On Oct 2, 2012 8:52 PM, "Bryan Bishop" <kanzure@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> From: Nathan Seidle <nathan@sparkfun.com>
>> >> >> Date: Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:50 PM
>> >> >> Subject: [Discuss] Sharing best practices
>> >> >> To: Open Source Hardware Association Discussion List
>> >> >> <discuss@lists.oshwa.org>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi mailing list,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I've been mulling around the best practices for sharing in the OSHW
>> >> >> community. If it makes sense, I think it would be good to add this
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> the OSHWA website someday.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XbzNvMgqbg7EyDy2UBWKvlV1WmWHWKOdjdkzAIAHTWM/edit
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Please log in if you've got a google account so we can track
>> >> >> changes.
>> >> >> My goal is to point out the major groups: real-world photos,
>> >> >> enclosure, PCB, code, documentation. I know there are others but I'm
>> >> >> having brainstorm block at the moment.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Please remember OSHW includes more than electronics. My dream is to
>> >> >> have a bicycle manufacturer in the group some day. How would they
>> >> >> share?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Let me know what you think.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cheers,
>> >> >> -Nathan
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Nathan Seidle
>> >> >> CEO, SparkFun Electronics Inc
>> >> >> Boulder, CO
>> >> >> Phone : 1-303-284-0979
>> >> >> Fax : 1-303-443-0048
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>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
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>> >> >> http://heybryan.org/
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