Re: [DIYbio] Re: Meeting times

I have nothing to hide. But I also have nothing to share.

If I am doing nothing illegal, I will not change my lifestyle or
collaborations to better suit the paranoia of three-letter-agencies, no
matter where they make their home.

If I share legal, harmless DNA to people whom I trust, I have done
nothing illegal. If they happen, exceptionally unlikely as it is in
reality, to do something wrong with said DNA, then it's on them, morally
and legally.

Cloud cultures would be such a social venture; a DHT-style repository of
DNA samples that can be queried to find a contact who has the DNA and is
willing to share. Provided everything is legal, I see no need to
encumber it with licenses, fancy membership cards, or other clutter. The
whole point is an open source repository to rival the closed, jealous one.

On 01/10/12 19:58, Sebastian S. Cocioba wrote:
> But wouldn't a public repo of bioparts like biobricks with no affiliations cause legal trouble?
>
> Sebastian S Cocioba
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> On Oct 1, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Sung won Lim <4phlebas@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just wanted to point out that license for doing amateur biology is a terrible, pointless idea, at least when BSL 1 kind of experiments are concerned.
>>
>> -sung
>>
>> On Oct 1, 2012 1:54 PM, "Sebastian S. Cocioba" <scocioba@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Would there be any legal issues with having a cloud culture repository? I had a recent meeting with a nyc fbi agent about lab start-ups and sharing info/material and she was worried about the "wrong kind of people" getting their hands on biostuff and making bionasties. Maybe a biohaking license of sorts with a liability waiver would work? Just to have ppl on record and all action is transparent. Not that we have anything to hide.
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>>> On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:26 AM, Cathal Garvey <cathalgarvey@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Last I'd heard, Randy was still averse to allowing DIY teams, for fear
>>>> of having his brand "polluted" by biohacking's popularity.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, also because it would draw attention to the fact that his
>>>> widely-called-open repository is anything but.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, and because loads of stuff in the parts registry is patented and
>>>> created without a license, but gets away with it as long as it's only
>>>> for the Ivory Tower teams.
>>>>
>>>> Oh and..
>>>>
>>>> Essentially, we are better off starting our own parts repository; Cloud
>>>> Cultures FTW!
>>>>
>>>> If you haven't heard of the GOODIYbio competition, now's a good time to
>>>> familiarise yourself. It's a recently launched open source biology
>>>> competition, and there are categories for hardware, software and
>>>> wetware, with the "win" tiebreaker being for the most reproducible project.
>>>>
>>>> Wetware projects highly recommended! ;)
>>>> http://www.goodiybio.org/
>>>>
>>>> On 27/09/12 17:04, Bryan Bishop wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Mitchell N <m.nordstrom@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Don't know if it's been mentioned at all but do we want to register as a
>>>>>> igem group so we can have access to the parts registry?
>>>>>> http://partsregistry.org/Main_Page
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought iGEM doesn't allow DIY groups. This is why DIY folks have to
>>>>> team up with a university to get accepted as a team. But did this
>>>>> change? I remember Randy Ruttberg making a fuss about things.. dunno.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Bryan
>>>>> http://heybryan.org/
>>>>> 1 512 203 0507
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