Re: [DIYbio] Effect of repeated autoclavation

Yep the effect on sugars (heat hydrolysis) and Millard reaction (primarily with peptides and amino acids) of autoclaving - especially repeated autoclaving. I've always made concentrated sugar solutions, filter sterilized, and aseptically added to media after autoclaving.

>matt

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Re: [DIYbio] Effect of repeated autoclavation

Good to know, I had never heard that! Pretty relevant to luminescence
broth if anyone's doing bioluminescent bacterial isolations.

On 06/02/13 05:49, Robert Sidney Cox III wrote:
> Glycerol will create Glyceraldehyde, which is toxic
>
> On Wednesday, February 6, 2013 4:02:25 AM UTC+9, Cathal Garvey wrote:
>
>     For LB, this isn't so much of an issue, but for media that contain
>     sugars you can get caramelisation of the sugar, splitting of
>     disaccharides, or maillard reactions, all of which might interfere with
>     some sensitive experiments, bacteria, or what have you.
>
>     For most experiments though, it won't make much of a difference
>     provided
>     you try to use the same media batch for everything; doing otherwise,
>     you
>     might have trouble telling what's different between samples; whether to
>     blame the bugs or the broth.
>
>     On 05/02/13 18:54, Avery louie wrote:
>     > It can mess up the concentration by removing water, which makes it
>     > darker as has been mentioned.
>     >
>     > --A
>     >
>     > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Daniel C. <dcroo...@gmail.com
>     <javascript:>
>     > <mailto:dcroo...@gmail.com <javascript:>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:01 PM, jarlemag <jarle...@gmail.com
>     <javascript:>
>     >     <mailto:jarle...@gmail.com <javascript:>>> wrote:
>     >     > Hello. A simple question popped up in the lab today, and I
>     thought
>     >     perhaps
>     >     > some of you would know: Will autoclaving the same medium
>     multiple
>     >     times
>     >     > degrade the quality of common complex growth media such as LB?
>     >
>     >     I can't speak to the effects on LB, but repeatedly autoclaving
>     growth
>     >     medium for Saccharomyces cerevisiae (yeast) can actually
>     improve it by
>     >     causing precipitation of chemicals that would otherwise form
>     >     particulates and cloud up your final product.  Because the
>     important
>     >     chemicals are essentially sugar, autoclaving (even multiple
>     times)
>     >     won't make the medium less suitable but it can make it
>     progressively
>     >     darker in color.
>     >
>     >     -Dan
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