Re: Antioxidant hype, was Re: [DIYbio] Need a paper please

On 04/23/2014 06:26 PM, Matt Harbowy wrote:
> I generally don't appreciate being sent into a rats nest of cross-linked pages. Fightaging.org is like an echo chamber of link bait. This is what you see again and again in communities like that of Autism/Vaccines, Lorenzo's Oil, SENS, and the like. All evidence is positive and no statement is falsifiable or at risk.
Which demonstrates in microcosm why scientific mainstream movements last
long past the point at which they should dissolve in the face of new
consensus paradigms. Few people are willing to put in the effort to
actually read or critique much of anything outside their present circle:
human nature at work. So much of everything is not worth the time that
even when new scientific paradigms do in fact arise, supported by the
data and a significant number of researchers, some people continue to
cheerfully call it all bunk. It's easier to do that than put in the work
needed to change your own mind.

For my money, I'd say that anyone in the field should think twice about
lumping SENS in with snake oil. By doing so you are saying that George
Church, Anthony Atala, Judith Campisi, Maria Blasco, and a score of
other highly respected and influential people in the life sciences - all
of whom publicly support SENS, which you can see if you take the
necessary fifteen seconds to look at the SENS Research Foundation
research advisory board membership and statement - are, what, snake oil
salespeople? That's clearly just one step away from tin foil headwear.
These are some of the leading figures in biomedical research. At some
point it has to be easier just to admit that you might be wrong and look
at the actual research with an honest eye.

In any case I'm done with this; those are the last points I wish to make
in this somewhat futile exchange.

Reason

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