Re: [DIYbio] Re: "Theranos, CEO Holmes, and Former President Balwani Charged With Massive Fraud"

Exactly, a quick call to someone like Steve Quake - also at Stanford (and an inventor if the Fluidigm microfluidics platform) would have revealed some of the considerable doubts over Theranos claims.

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> On Jun 22, 2018, at 2:40 PM, Jonathan Cline <jcline@ieee.org> wrote:
>
> "all the biotech experts in my area never heard of Elizabeth Holmes
> ... Nobody in Indiebio the Biotech accelerator or even the DIY Biology
> groups like Biocurious or any maker space group heard of her crew. "
>
> That is indicative of a different problem: why are research principals
> & science groups so unaware of the biotech business environment
> especially considering very obvious headlines. No one is simply
> skimming the headlines of Forbes, etc? That's simply not a good route
> for a startup environment (basically, it's a pretty uneducated
> approach). Holmes was very, very prominent in the news, and the
> stories blatantly stood out because they were so unbelievable.
> (Young researcher makes a so-called amazing discovery, drops out of
> Stanford, and is rapidly estimated as having one of the largest net
> worths of all time for a young scientist?)
>
> It is also indicative of how easy it would have been for any
> journalist to debunk the company's story. A research breakthrough of
> such magnitude should be conceptually verifiable to any student and
> especially any expert in the field. If any of the company's claims
> were possible, Holmes would have been well known in biotech research
> circles, and definitely in the microfluidics area. All these science
> and business journalists didn't place a single 10 minute investigative
> phone call in this regard?
>
>
>> On 6/22/18, Dig fan <ryanvituggavieres@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Start with this during the time Holmes was coming into play. As a person
>> who did take biotech and biology major classes and graduated all the
>> biotech experts in my area never heard of Elizabeth Holmes until the
>> scandal was released to the public. Somehow Holmes is a complete unknown
>> in cities where biotech is a big deal like South San Francisco, Vacaville
>> and Davis areas. Nobody in Indiebio the Biotech accelerator or even the DIY
>>
>> Biology groups like Biocurious or any maker space group heard of her crew.
>> The problem here was that the heat and backlash was focused on something
>> else though.
>>
>>> On Friday, June 22, 2018 at 10:05:56 AM UTC-6, Jonathan Cline wrote:
>>>
>>> Start a list of every journalist who wrote a nonobjective,
>>> positive-leaning article about Theranos between the years 2005-2015.
>>> That's ten years in which any of the journalists could have called any
>>> typical university microfluidics or nanotechnology research lab in the
>>> world to discount Theranos's vaporware statements. Science reporters
>>> are supposed to report science objectively, not inflate dangerous
>>> hype.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/22/18, Ryan Vitug-Gavieres <ryanvitu...@gmail.com <javascript:>>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>> https://www.reuters.com/article/health-theranos/theranos-founder-holmes-seeks-stay-of-lawsuit-after-indictment-idUSL1N1TN28J
>>>
>>>>
>>>> More updates.
>>>>
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